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Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2004-09-25 18:28:00, rjfro22 wrote:

  The Seed  was only a few months out of our lives,

--- End quote ---


Maybe this is the crux of the difference. For some of you, you had a perceived problem, joined the Seed, Stopped using drugs and moved on with your lives. You identify your time in the Seed as a positive time where you changed your direction. The seed represents a brief interlude in your young adult lives.

For many others of us, we were forced in under lies and threats, Our personalities were stripped from us,The Seed took over our families, we were threatened with it constantly even after completing it, we felt locked up, imprisoned, harrased, embarrassed, captive. Our families spoke the secret language around the house and had seed license plates. The Seed represents a huge negative event in our childhood and we were forced to either reject our personalities or reject the Seed.

Two very different experiences for sure.


gregfl

rjfro22:
Greg,
 Is what you are saying is using drugs had nothing to do with  there weakness , in fact you almost sound like you are saying they  used drugs because of the Seed. You know that old saying, " you can't bullshit a bullshitter", well you and I know we can all get one over on a phychologist. But we couldn't  put one over on our peers,   . The power of the seed was us all sharing similar problems and we really could not get one over on each other, been down that. Art  let that process work on it's own. People who choose not to remain clean ,did so on there own.  They are solely responsible for themselves, The Seed offered some  strict guidance for a few months out of our lives.  YOU GOT IT OR YOU DIDN'T.  I slipped after a couple of years, but never to the level I did when I came into the seed , and I never felt  quilty about it.. After a few years of wasting my  live and remembering what the Seed has taught me (I know that makes you cringe) I rebounded and it has been 19 years . Remember drugs were everywhere and it was part of our generation , that was part of the real problem.  I do keep in touch with a few  seedling from the past and they drink  and whatever, and they seem happy enough to me. Who am I to judge, that's what works for them. We talk occasionally about the old days at the seed, and discuss the good and the bad have a few laughs, but over all we had good memories .

Anonymous:
"bullshit a bullshitter"

"I know we can all get one over on a phychologist. But we couldn't put one over on our peers"
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How long ago did you get off your program?

Anonymous:
I went in to the Seed in march 1973  to 1974
SR84

rjfro22:
I left the Seed  around 1975 and moved to California.

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