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Are Nazi's now Holocost survivors too??? Ex Staff stop comp

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Antigen:
Ok, now I have to agree w/ the other side (lol!)

The Nazis didn't just arrive on the scene in 1945 or so and start throwing people into ovens. The Nazi movement started... aw hell, I don't feel like verifying dates. But I know they got their start sometime in the late `20's to early `30's.

Just substitute terms like "Jew" "impure races" and "undesirables" for the terms like "druggie" and "gang affiliate" in some of what passes through the pipeline on the way to Congress and you might see some legitimate paralells.

Frightening as it is, CEDU is not that big a deal all by itself. It's a part of something much bigger. In a sane world, sadistic fanatics like these would not have a market to serve or near cart blanch from the authorities.

Oh, and there were a couple of high ranking Nazis who broke down and cried on the stand at Neuremberg, begging to be put to death for what they had done and become.

Anyway, I just hope ya'll will hear eachother out.

The last struggles of a great superstition are very frequently the worst.
--Andrew Dickson
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Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2004-04-22 14:59:00, Maximus wrote:

And suffering is not a badge of honor. Experiencing tyranny does not deserve a bow or a kiss. The honor is in removing the stumbling stone. The honor is in the impolite destruction of tyranny through honest, powerful dialogue - not etiquette. Not political correctness.

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It is wrong to leave a stumbling block in the road once it has tripped you.

Maximus:
My son will fight tyranny. He will speak out and offend if necessary, and he will survive.

It is silence, fear, and polite submission that is deadly.

This time we will not hide - we will attack.[ This Message was edited by: Maximus on 2004-04-22 15:08 ]

Maximus:
Thanks Ging - "libratarian is where it's at"

Anonymous:
I can certainly understand why students reading complaints by staff against CEDU is a bit hard to swallow.  Students are exposed mostly to the counseling staff which are only a fraction of the staff.  A student's view is much narrower.  

I do feel badly for my part in it, though  I can say that I never abused anyone at CEDU, and I paid the ultimate price for trying to stop others from doing the same.  And I am not the only one who tried and lost.

We all have our own perspectives on what we experienced at CEDU, and we should all feel free to express them.  I do, however, feel that moving forward is the most important thing we can do for ourselves.  Accepting that people do change, and people do make mistakes is a part of moving forward.

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