Look this has gone too far. I can somewhat understand your bashings of Clare, Marc, Marty, and Jeff (I don't agree with them, and definatly question where you get your information) but this is not right. Ken has done nothing to any of you. You can rant and rave in this forum, why do you need to do it in his? He doesn't allow degradation, I don't see that as a sin. Leave him alone. If I were Ken I would slap a law suit on your asses so quickly for harassment and defamation of character. Ken is a nice guy who wants to help out alumni of Elan. This isn't right.