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Carey:
A lie is a lie and the worst kind of lie is one that is made as a sworn statement.  Face it, somewhere along the line she lied.  She may be looked at just like one of those "lying teens."  She has not helped kids, she has only cast more doubt on their words.  What a shame for them.

If she is all you have to believe in, I can see why you are holding on so tightly to her words...at least while they are what you want them to be.

You imply she has changed her testimony for a reason.  Maybe she has changed it because she was involved in the rape and cover up.   Maybe that is why she is now taking this swing to the oposite end of the spectrum.  That is why she came out of the closet.  It was as a result of me posting her name on public sites saying that she was involved.  It was as a result of that that she came forward and contacted me.  Maybe she is trying to save her butt just like Sue is.  Maybe that is why she changed her story once coming in contact with Sue.

You know according to Amberly's testimony Dundee was great...until...the rape and cover up.  All of this of course taking place around the time I was contacting her and telling her I did not want my boys there. Something stinks, really stinks.

[ This Message was edited by: Carey on 2004-02-01 19:43 ]

Anonymous:
CQ: Something stinks, really stinks.


I suggest you take a hot shower and it helps to use a little soap.


CQ: You imply she has changed her testimony for a reason. Maybe she has changed it because she was involved in the rape and cover up.

No dear. She was not involved in a cover up. She was instrumental in getting the victim medical care and assisting the Mom. She would not allow the attempted cover up.
The change in her statement reflects a change in her opinion; based on her realization she had been mistaken.
Many a post program parent has experienced this;  I have myself experienced it with relation to a job I once took with a highly regarded business; that turned out to be disreputable. Its a learning process. You think you know. You slowly realize you were mistaken. You slowly realize just how mistaken; and your opinion and testimony will change accordingly, if you are a person of integrity. If not, you conform to what it apparently acceptable within the group in question.
This has been explained to you So many times now.  

CQ: ?Sounds like Amberly did a great job. Geoff and Garred always said, "she (Amberly) was always on the side of the kids, and she cared about each and everyone of them. She was the one who really wanted to help us to be a better person."

Anonymous:

--- Quote --- ?Sounds like Amberly did a great job. Geoff and Garred always said, "she (Amberly) was always on the side of the kids, and she cared about each and everyone of them. She was the one who really wanted to help us to be a better person."
--- End quote ---


Correct they said that.  But they also have testified to the fact that her NEW sworn statement about Dundee is a lie. What do you suppose she has taught them now.  It is a shame that Sue has convinced her to lie about what she herself witnessed.  Amberly must be one weak person to continue to buy into what others tell her. She easily conforms to what ever group she joins.  Sad.

How do you explain Martha's trips to Dundee and the fact that she left Cory there for a year?

Carey:
That was me.

One more thing, you are right Amberly is  a self-less person...brainwashed just like you ex WWASP parents.  NOT!!!!

Anonymous:
Carey,
How would your twins Know, what anyone says,  is a lie; unless it is about something they were a party to?
I don't see how they could. They might Think they know something; much the same way you Think you know something.
Are they eye witnesses to any event that Amberly has described in such a way that they feel she lied about it? If you think you can say yes, be very specific please.  Just Yes, is not good enough, when making such a claim.
You have said your twins claim no one was battered at Dundee; but they told the reporter that while they weren't, others were. You say this is true; the reporter hadn't lied about their statement.
So, how is that different from what others have said, whom you claim to be liars?
Your twins may not be privy to every event and circumstance surrounding Dundee. In fact, there is no way possible that they were; and no reason to think they are more knowledgeable that any other kid.
So, they may not be able to truthfully testify to the same events and situations as someone else; but that does not make all others with differing testimony, liars.
This TOO, has been explained to you SO many times.

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