Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Spots and Deberahs Family Dynamics?
Deborah:
I imagine your true interest is in distracting attention from the hard questions posed at this forum-- how kids are treated on a daily basis in WWASP, or any other program for that matter, and whether that treatment is humane and/or violates their rights as human beings in a free society.
[ This Message was edited by: Deborah on 2004-01-03 20:24 ]
Antigen:
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To the mom - I'm not the anon that started this thread- aand I can't see the point either. I will ask you why you feel you were lied to and manipulated by "the program?" Is this what your son said to you or you know this for a fact? No accusations, just a question for clarification.
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How about this. This is what this anon poster's kid said to them. This is also what litterally hundreds of other kids have said. This is what the contracts that the parents sign ask permission to do. You want me to believe what you think is going on inside these programs and to not believe these other hundreds of people. Why? What reason do I have to believe you over these other people?
What they describe is extremely similar to what I saw for two years in another Synanon based coercive persuasion program.
The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either, but right through every human heart.
Alexander Solzhenitsyn
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Antigen:
I have not seen thousands of satisfied parents. I have seen reference to thousands of writing assignments. But I never seem to run into a lot of these people whenever I go out looking for discussion on the topic. And many of those who remain satisfied parents for years have little or no contact with their kids or grandkids after the program. But that doesn't seem to trouble them. They got what they wanted.
You can lead a camel to water but you can't make it stink (any more than it already does)
-- Job
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Anonymous:
That probably because you don't have access to their boards. Another thing a lot of people have jobs, resposibilites, families, relationships etc, not the time or know how of hanging out on some anomous bulletin board.
BTW the more active posters have visited this board and others and have moved on to creating postive changes else where.
Many people are dealing with their own issues, and tend to blame everything else except themselves for how their lives have turned out.
Successful people, learn, adjust and move on.
How many parents that enrolled their child into a WWASPS program and are disgruntled are posters on this board, and are not competitors as well, maybe 5 maybe 10 if that.
BTW posters that have never been to a WWASP facility or are Political Activist don't count either.
NICE TRY :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Anonymous:
Spots - your granddaughter did not complete the program. She may have had you not forced the mother to release her or you would continue legal proceedings. You are a bully, which is apparent by your language and your assumptions. I never thought of my son as a "little shit." Not ever! I saw the choices he was making to destroy his life and loved him enough to make a very hard decision. He was not a throwaway child in any way. How dare you assume that loving my son was hurting him - hey, we're not all as perfect as you are. BTW you must be a great mom to your daughter to have alienated her from you. Do you even care how much you have hurt her by taking her own daughter away from her?
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