Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Apologia - Serious debate only, please!
Anonymous:
Those parents probably didn't send anon letters. Idon't think wwasp wanted to post the last names publically due to the harrassment factor from those that don't share the same view.
I'll betcha that Tim Weiner received the full names as he contacted some of them personally and twisted and omitted much of what he was told.
believe it or not, whatever...
Anonymous:
All of the magazine shows full names - http://www.wwasp.com/source03/Dec-03-Source.pdf - granted there aren't the "hundreds" of testimonials in it, but each one has some great reading.
Deborah:
The parent is ultimately incarcerating (that constitutes abuse to some) the teen against their will out of fear for what might happen to the kid. Various other fears are stated, but this seems to be the primary fear.
Look, the number one killer in this country is Heart Disease, and quickly climbing the charts is cancer. Both could be prevented with adequate nutrition, exercise, and the avoidance of toxins.
Americans slowly kill themselves everyday with their dietary choices and sedetary lifestlyes. Far more deaths due to this than illegal drugs and risky lifestyles. And, those same Americans train/condition their children to follow in their footsteps down this path to premature death.
Does that give me, or anyone else, the right to round up everyone who's overweight or exhibiting the early signs of heart disease and incarcerate them in fat farms against their will; isolated from the world so they can work MY program; and for an unspecified time at which I feel they are making better choices for themselves? Then defend my action by saying I did it out of love for them and to prevent their POSSIBLE premature death? Heaven help us if the Insurance Industry latches onto this idea.
No, this has nothing to do with love, in my opinion. And everything to do with fear. And that fear is exploited by those who stand to gain monetarily.
Anonymous:
No Deborah - me thinks you are the one grasping at straws to make sure you are right. You come off as an expert on wwasp programs. That's really funny - you are single handedly turning this into a bash in my opinion. Bash your own program experience on another thread. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought this thread was for serious debate on wwasp experiences. If you wanna turn it into all programs, then fine, clarify your experience with the program you are familiar with.
BTW, I would help a person who is overweight if they wanted it, but I would help a child experiencing bulemia/anorexia/cutting or a diabetic that isn't taking care of their needs to stay alive - I would do that in a heart beat without their agreement - what does love mean to you?
Ever heard the starfish story?
Anonymous:
Deborah, have you ever heard of a kid being truly incarcerated, like jail, against their will? I guess that makes it okay if a judge makes that decision. Thank goodness my kid never had to experience that kind of "help." LOL! :razz:
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