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TC_Saved_Me:

--- Quote from: "Samara" ---What I'm saying is that your friend appears intolerant of people who dissent from his POV that TC is the Savior. Also, your post still shows a complete minimalization of TC dissenters as rule whiners. It is NOT uncommon for Programmees to drink the Kool Aid and think without this program I'd be dead. Often, these same people feel differently once the Kool Aid wears off.  I'm just not as dismissive of the opinions of people who found TC lacking in ethical boundaries. That is all. I'm not going to marginalize them as rule whiners. If God put it there to save your ass, more power to you. Sounds ridiculous to me, but whatever.
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I see what you're saying.  There could be a fine line between whether those who choose to leave the program are dissenters or "rule whiners."  I'm sure alot of them leave for personal convictions about the ethical boundaries of the program.

I'm not sure any graduate of that program would consider TC a "Savior" though.  TC is just the media that God chooses to save us.

none-ya:

--- Quote ---TC_Saved_Me wrote;
I'm not sure any graduate of that program would consider TC a "Savior" though. TC is just the media that God chooses to save us.
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Spoken like a true Tim Tebow fan.

Ursus:

--- Quote from: "none-ya" ---
--- Quote from: "TC_Saved_Me" ---I'm not sure any graduate of that program would consider TC a "Savior" though. TC is just the media that God chooses to save us.
--- End quote ---
Spoken like a true Tim Tebow fan.
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I'm a bit curious, "TC_Saved_Me," about the "saving" or "Savior" component of what you just said... in light of your chosen username...?

TC_Saved_Me:

--- Quote ---I'm a bit curious, "TC_Saved_Me," about the "saving" or "Savior" component of what you just said... in light of your chosen username...?
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I guess this should have been my username, but it was a little bit too long:   "God_Used_TC_To_Save_Me_Through_Faith_In_Jesus_Christ"

Not to be too theological, but I believe that TC saved me (from a worldly, sobriety perspective).  But TC is no "Savior" (by that I mean that TC can not save my soul from eternal damnation [hell]).

I received my salvation in TC, so it is the means at which God chose to bring me to my eternal salvation.

none-ya:
So much emphasis on the soul. We should concentrate on mind and body, At least we can prove they exist.

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