HR 911, uggh, again....

[blombrowski]

Regarding restraints, H.R. 4247 had more "juice" in the last session, a Senate co-sponsor and a number of organizations including the aformentioned National Disability Rights Network lobbying hard for it.  Is there a grand bargained to be reached with Harkin to try to combine the two bills? (look this is all speculation, nothing is actually going to get passed in this Congress)

But I guess regarding lobbying Congress, there's only so much more you can share with Miller's office.  I kind of get the sense he has his mind made up.  Harkin hasn't drafted legislation yet, and whereas the Republicans threatened to filibuster in the last session because something had already passed the House, there were negotiations a the end of the last session, but no bill.  With no way of it actually passing, there might actually be a bill written up this time in the Senate.

P & A stands for Protection and Advocacy.

[Che Gookin]

I was a bit put out by 4247 not getting passed. I thought it had quite a bit of merit to it. Not sure what you mean by Harkin. Is he some other congresscritter?

It's a good possible compromise though. I wouldn't compromise on one very important issue.

Monitoring of mandatory phone calls. There is no need for the programs to be eavesdropping on people's calls. Kids getting eavesdropped on by programs is probably why a great many kids just shut up and suffer in silence.

Why risk getting in more trouble? They probably were punished once for the abusive events, why risk it again for attempting to, "manipulate" mom and dad?

Nah.. that's one thing I wouldn't give an inch on. Don't let them even have semi-supervised calls. Sure the programmies can dial the number.. but they can piss off with all of that.

Further, no exemptions should be given to wilderness programs. They do have satellite phones and all that are quite affordable.

[wdtony]

I was with Trisha Lynch yesterday and she thinks the same thing

Though I wouldn't completely dismiss the brainwashing theory.

Is there any evidence that he was in a program? Or that he was on psychiatric medication?

[Anonymous]

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[wdtony]

According to the media he was in two drug/alcohol treatment programs, but they won't release the name of the place.

Do you have a link to the media source who suggested that he was in2 programs? That would be a great start, and to find out which programs would be beneficial.

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[Che Gookin]

Dunno if I'd be all that eager to get into the accreditation business. That diverges massively from my desire to abolish programs.

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[wdtony]

yeah...I know...can't really imagine giving the thumbs up to any program....I don't think there's any worry about it cominig to that...

Accreditation agencies are paid by programs. No program would pass inspection and the Accred. agency would go belly up due to financial losses.

I do agree that survivors who know about these programs should be a voice in how they are regulated, and a part of any solution. Otherwise it's like having a nearly blind watchdog.

[heretik]

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