« Reply #39 on: July 01, 2001, 05:23:05 PM »
Re: Stranggling Teens
Face, I'm not talking about the people who run these programs. As tragic as their personal stories may be, it's far overshadowed by what they will likely do to others if no one stops them. If that means prison, public humiliation or just countering their bullshit so that no one will buy into it any more, I don't have time to consider the consequences to them; they've got all that and more coming to them.
I'm talking about the rank and file proud parents and graduates and all thoe well intended people from NIDA all the way down through local law enforcement, education, CPS and community volunteers who assist in their recruiting and propaganda. For the most part, they're good and decent people just like the rank and file Nazi soldiers, teachers, mothers and fathers who bought into the madness for so long. As I understand it, most of them never fully believed in the existance of the death camps. They believed what their fearless and nobel[sic] leaders told them; that these were degenerate criminals undergoing rehabilitation.
In Germany today, Nazi propaganda is illegal and, as I understand it, they take enforcement very seriously! So what happened to all those good people after the war? How have they come to terms with what they'd done? How did they make peace with the neighbor who's daughter was raped and murdered by SS officers acting on an annonymous tip from them? Or did they.
Question is, what do we do with the Bill Carvey's of the world after the game is over?
Scott, the best use I can find for those recruiting forums is to use them as proof for people who can't take our word for it that TOUGHLOVE is just another hate-group. I can't stomach much of it either. But once in awahile, when I'm feeling pluckey, I like to troll around pretending to be a parent looking for help for a typically rebellious kid. Then I start asking very polite but difficult questions. I don't do this to sway the people dolling out all the hate. I do this to push their buttons and get them to show their asses for the benefit of those folks who are still forming an opinion of the whole thing.
-If there's a worse idea going than locking kids up for victimless crimes, it's probably locking them in close proximity to some tyrannical altruist bent on helping them even if it kills them.
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