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Deborah:
****we know that the staff are trained in restraint if it's needed.

You KNOW! Or you were told?
Where and from whom do they receive this training in restraint?

Anonymous:
Karen - I'm well aware of what abuse is.  Please do not manipulate what I said to make it look as though I have no clue.  You don't believe what I know, I don't believe what you think is true.  That's not to say you are a liar, because you believe it, so it is your truth.  I'm saying just because neither my son nor any of the kids I've met from many different programs at many different times were never abused doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Anonymous:
Carey - I do understand where you're coming from.  I'll just say, go with your gut feelings.  I say that to any parent that is struggling with what they are feeling vs what the staff are saying.  You're not wrong to feel things weren't what you wanted for your sons.  

I will say that I would have never sent my son out of the country.  I'm too familiar with the governments of different countries and was grateful that WWASPS had programs in the US.  It wasn't WWASPS that I had issues with, it was the governments in the other countries.  Dundee is not a place I had any experience of at all. I chose a school that had professional staff, therapists and was in a good community with lots of opportunities for off grounds activities and sports.  

I know wwASPS has a PR person making recommendations and I do see where the third party advocate would stop false allegations by the parents.  the kids will always be saying what they think their parents will believe to bring them home - it is what it is.  I know the recommendations will be welcome by everyone involved, but dont know specifics at this point.

Anonymous:
Forget the PR Firm, they get paid to influence public opinion, not protect kids.

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2003-10-08 22:12:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Carey - I do understand where you're coming from.  I'll just say, go with your gut feelings.  I say that to any parent that is struggling with what they are feeling vs what the staff are saying.  You're not wrong to feel things weren't what you wanted for your sons.  



I will say that I would have never sent my son out of the country.  I'm too familiar with the governments of different countries and was grateful that WWASPS had programs in the US.  It wasn't WWASPS that I had issues with, it was the governments in the other countries.  Dundee is not a place I had any experience of at all. I chose a school that had professional staff, therapists and was in a good community with lots of opportunities for off grounds activities and sports.  



I know wwASPS has a PR person making recommendations and I do see where the third party advocate would stop false allegations by the parents.  the kids will always be saying what they think their parents will believe to bring them home - it is what it is.  I know the recommendations will be welcome by everyone involved, but dont know specifics at this point.  "

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I don't think Carey would agree the WWASPS's PR Firm is qualified to monitor the care and treatment of children in residential programs.

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