Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
Dr. Phil again and again
Che Gookin:
--- Quote from: "Joel" ---The children's behavior is relevant considering that is one reason why they were placed in a program. This fact cannot be disputed. I hope they are not abused in their program. If they are, this will damage the parent child relationship further. This issue should not have been dealt with on national television. I think this is horrible to do to any child. Whereas this caused trust issues between the children - parents. The parents and Dr. Phil also shoulder some of the blame.
--- End quote ---
So a woman who is raped is to blame for her being raped? A child who is drug off to a program against their will need not be held responsible for their parent's inability to be parents. That lack of parenting skill rest completely on the parent's shoulders. Therefore, the behaviors of the child are beside the point as no child need be in any single one of this little duckfarms in the first place. If such a service is needed it should come from a community vendor and failing that a government organization that has plenty of oversight from investigators and concerned citizens to prevent abusive behavior.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Che Gookin" ---
--- Quote from: "Joel" ---The children's behavior is relevant considering that is one reason why they were placed in a program. This fact cannot be disputed. I hope they are not abused in their program. If they are, this will damage the parent child relationship further. This issue should not have been dealt with on national television. I think this is horrible to do to any child. Whereas this caused trust issues between the children - parents. The parents and Dr. Phil also shoulder some of the blame.
--- End quote ---
So a woman who is raped is to blame for her being raped? A child who is drug off to a program against their will need not be held responsible for their parent's inability to be parents. That lack of parenting skill rest completely on the parent's shoulders. Therefore, the behaviors of the child are beside the point as no child need be in any single one of this little duckfarms in the first place. If such a service is needed it should come from a community vendor and failing that a government organization that has plenty of oversight from investigators and concerned citizens to prevent abusive behavior.
--- End quote ---
If a car gets a dent in it the car still needs to go to the body shop regardless of whose fault it is. Everyone shoulders a piece of the blame and should be responsible for it. Even the rape victim needs to shoulder her part. She should not be putting herself in risky situations like doing a striptease in a biker bar at 2:00am and then trying to undress all the guys at the bar.
It comes across as very insincere and not very believable when a child blames their parents and the program yet never discusses the events leading up to their placement nor take responsibility for their part. Most of the time the kids should shoulder the lions share of the responsibility for their placement.
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Joel:
Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
Oscar:
I must be hard sitting in front of a such a pair of parents as a therapist or an educational consultant knowing based on your professional experience that this would produce an income for years combined with referral fees from various sources if the root of the problem is not dealt with - and still advice the parents to change their ways before they do anything else.
Joel:
Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
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