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Dr. Phil again and again

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Oscar:
Dr. Phil has once again used Aspen Education Group as a partner in his show. This time it is two sisters who has been sent to Turn-about ranch for - ordinary teenage stuff.

To make matter worse he makes fun of a worried mother trying to establish some security for her daughters when it is obvious for all that they had no access to start a grievance process in the deserts outside Escalante.

Copper Canyon Academy and Academy at Sisters are in play also as Dr. Phil seems to plan a strategy which could break up the family and isolate each of the sisters in different parts of the country for no good reason.

The shows message board is in this link.

Joel:
Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010

Che Gookin:

--- Quote from: "Joel" ---Oscar the teens smoke, drink, speed, pop pills, disappear all night and disrespect their parents all day.  There are two sides to this story.  I don't have a problem with your topic but post all the facts.  The facts including their behaviors, Oscar.  Whereas they should not be sent to a program that is unsafe.
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Yet none of these things are excuse enough to force anyone into treatment after humiliating them on national TV and then having them drug off via paid escort to some place they've never heard of.

The behaviors are irrelevant as the end results of this situation are never justified.

Joel:
Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010

Oscar:

--- Quote from: "Joel" ---Oscar the teens smoke, drink, speed, pop pills, disappear all night and disrespect their parents all day.  There are two sides to this story.  I don't have a problem with your topic but post all the facts.  The facts including their behaviors, Oscar.  Whereas they should not be sent to a program that is unsafe.
--- End quote ---

The problem is short to say:

* Their birth-parent (father in this case) remarries

* The birth-parent gives the responsibility to set up guidelines to the step-parent. It is a big no-no. The step-parent has to balance her role between learning the girls to trust her and enforcing the roles of the birth-parents. If there are no rules to enforce, then she can set up some herself but it would push the girls away. If any step-parent want children to follow rules, then get the birth-parent onboard and let this person make the rules public.

* Do not disagree about parenting in front of the children or in public anywhere because children have ears and eyes. They will know the rumor.

* All behaviors other than food intake and getting rid of stomach contents are learned behaviors. We have no history about the parents habits, how teenagers in the local community in general act. The parents could very well have problems of their own, they could live in a neighborhood where teenagers are out of control in general. Look at one of the mayors of Copenhagen (For unknown reasons there are many) how he deals with youth. They keep talking about frustrating teenagers while they are about to be stoned. We need to know why exactly this family and how are they so special that they could not set up counseling.

I believe that a marriage counselor could fix this 10 times faster and a lot cheaper if the parents really want to. They have to do the work and I agree that this family have problems. If they don't want to fix them and want to work with themselves during therapy, then they could have found some ordinary exiting boarding school for the girls and shipped them there until they are 18.

It doesn't matter for how long and which residential placement they choose. The entire project will be a failure until the parents change. The lifestyle shown by these girls are a symptom only. They are hurting inside due to lack of structure in their home. Any doctor can try to fix the symptoms but it will take a while and in this case it properly not be fixed before the girls are out on their own as adults.

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