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Dr. Phil again and again

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Oscar:
I was not attacking your previous line of work.

I was referring to the dilemma every professional in this business will meet.

You have a child. Sure something can be adjusted. There is always room for improvement. If they did break the law, it is vital that they are shown in the right direction.

But.... Then you meet the parents. They show such a lact of structure and unwillingless to take a good advice that you know that regardless how good the child will do and how well you guidance is received, the entire project will be a failure.

Here in Denmark they have been trying to work on what they call the social heritage. For 30 years they have given students cheap loans, grants etc. Fact remains that if you have parents with an academically education, the chance of a kid making it to the university is 10 times bigger.

And we are not alone. When I saw the research we had on Visionquest, I notice a reference to a story about a family with poor social background. Spoiler: It ends with a family reunion in jail and a burial. Also remember the story of the boys from Baraka. Kenya was not the answer but a local boarding school took care of the problem with the neighborhood being the feeding line to the jails.

Of course each and every boy and girl has a choice in any given situation. They can make good choices or bad choices. What they decide is based on a number of factors.

You can teach them the best possible basics so they hopefully will do right, but you cannot be sure. But if you don't try as the parents in the Dr. Phil show so clearly don't before they phone the doctor the chances of bad decisions are huge.

If the show had been the other way around and they had tried to make a change for a period and maybe taken some family expeditions as some wilderness programs offer, I would not have written about it. But of course it would not have been as good a kind of entertainment as the show turned to be for the doctor.

DannyB II:
This being played out on national TV doesn't help the situation at all in my opinion. Joel, I am impressed (not being sarcastic) with your rational thought process concerning this topic. Regardless how the kids got to the stage of destruction there at, they need help. I am not saying it is a program but if they continue down a self destructive road the choice will be made for them.
Idealistically we would like the parents to handle the situation locally with counselors or day programs but what if the parents can't for whatever reason, as so many can not or will not.

Anne Bonney:

--- Quote from: "DannyB II" ---This being played out on national TV doesn't help the situation at all in my opinion.
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I'm falling over in shock.....I actually agree with this statement by DannyBoi.  Any reputable doctor wouldn't expose his patients to national TV.  He's in it for the money.

Whooter:

--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
--- Quote from: "DannyB II" ---This being played out on national TV doesn't help the situation at all in my opinion.
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I'm falling over in shock.....I actually agree with this statement by DannyBoi.  Any reputable doctor wouldn't expose his patients to national TV.  He's in it for the money.
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These shows are purely for entertainment value.  Everything is set up from the beginning and Dr.Phil controls the flow and outcome.  He knows before the show even starts how it is going to end.  The families are just props for him so he can prove his point for that day.

Think World Wide Wrestling... its fake.



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Anne Bonney:

--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
--- Quote from: "DannyB II" ---This being played out on national TV doesn't help the situation at all in my opinion.
--- End quote ---


I'm falling over in shock.....I actually agree with this statement by DannyBoi.  Any reputable doctor wouldn't expose his patients to national TV.  He's in it for the money.
--- End quote ---

These shows are purely for entertainment value.  Everything is set up from the beginning and Dr.Phil controls the flow and outcome.  He knows before the show even starts how it is going to end.  The families are just props for him so he can prove his point for that day.

Think World Wide Wrestling... its fake.

--- End quote ---


OMG, someone needs to revive me quickly.....I'm now agreeing with both DannyBoi AND Whooter.

I can't stand Phil.   That goes for Oprah too.

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