I've always accepted the fact kids are abused in programs, and some have been killed. These are facts that cannot be ignored, and why should they? Everybody should be working on how to make programs safer and more effective. Over time I think programs do improve and get better. You can search my old posts, I've always acknowledged that some people are abused, and have negative experiences. I've been waiting for some reciprocity in this admission, but I am met with conspiracy theories about who I really am, or if I really went to a program. Just because some people are abused, doesn't mean everybody is. I wasn't, and as I've explained before the program actually saved my life through it's restrictiveness and strict rules. When people make threads talking about how they were abused, I don't go in and post that I think they are full of shit, or post disgusting pictures in an attempt to censor the conversation. Yet it happens to me all the time. I never posted people's personal information in an attempt to shut them up, about how they were abused. Yet it happens to anyone with an inkling of pro treatment views with regularity.
I've always been open to hear people's experiences, and have always taken them at face value. I'll await a quote of myself telling somebody what they think happened to them, really in fact did not happen. I don't do that, because I'm not that arrogant to assume I know better than other people. I know some people were abused, and they post here. This forum claims to be open to all opinions, and the fact I had a positive experience and it saved my life is rarely acknowledged or accepted as reality. It's mostly met with reasons why they can dismiss what I say altogether. So I find it highly ironic that these same people request that I stop telling people who were abused, that they weren't. Because I've never done that, yet that exact thing happens to me every time I post here. But hey, I'm used to the fornits double standard by this point.
But I am going to have to refrain from talking with you RobertBruce. I feel uncomfortable talking to people who thinks it's ok to threaten to release personal information about people, and who believe in conspiracy theories about Whooter's identity with no proof. To me this proves you are an extremist who is willing to bully innocent people, and send them creepy letters about their family members suicide just to win an online argument with Whooter. If you can mature a bit I will be open to a conversation with you, but until then I am going to have to ignore you.