Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group

Programs In Behrens Study Charged with Abuse

<< < (13/33) > >>

Ursus:

--- Quote from: "DannyB II" ---
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---Thanks, Paul.  I appreciate your looking out for me.  Sadly, Whooter believes in the "window of loss" philosophy that most program supporters believe.  That is, if some kids die from what the programs do to them...so be it.  We're bound to lose a few along the way.  Unfortunately, these deaths are 100% avoidable, but the program staff is usually uneducated, untrained and has no business working with kids and they ignore the kids' symptoms and just say they are "manipulating."  When the kid dies, they try to blame the kid.  It's sad.

Aspen programs have on eof the worst track records in this regard.  Over just the past few months several kids have died in their programs from completely preventable maladies.  Aspen programs are extremely dangerous and sometimes deadly.
--- End quote ---
DJ, stop acting like you are disconnected from this, you were part of this system that as you say, "committed these crimes". Yet we never hear about you in this anywhere. Ya know when Joel and Che speak they usually share their experiences as staff, not you.
DJ, you were staff and you were educated, so stop overcompensating here with this I'm all for Bla Bla Bla. It comes across phony.
Your buddy Paul thinks he has a hot case here, well, I will found out once and for all who is Danny and Whooter. I'll expose them if it is the last thing I do. Problem is, what is there to expose.
My purpose here is, to have balanced conversation.
--- End quote ---
Danny, how many of the "several people who post here under [your] user name" actually went to Elan or have any clue about this industry to begin with?

"Balanced conversation?" Lol. More like mayhem for the hell of it, eh?

Troll Control:
So, the converstaion is about abuse at the Aspen programs in the Behrens study.  

So far we learned several were charged with abuse, one was shut down for abuse and at least one killed a child.  Please, converse on the topic.  We're trying to understand why Behrens concluded that child abuse helps children.

For the record, I never worked at an Aspen facility, so I'm not sure why you would say that.

DannyB II:
Nice try Ursus, OOOOOoooohhhhhh DJ,
DJ, stop acting like you are disconnected from this, you were part of this system that as you say, "committed these crimes". Yet we never hear about you in this anywhere. Ya know when Joel and Che speak they usually share their experiences as staff, not you.
DJ, you were staff and you were educated, so stop overcompensating here with this I'm all for Bla Bla Bla. It comes across phony.
Your buddy Paul thinks he has a hot case here, well, I will found out once and for all who is Danny and Whooter. I'll expose them if it is the last thing I do. Problem is, what is there to expose.
My purpose here is, to have balanced conversation.

Troll Control:

--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---So, the converstaion is about abuse at the Aspen programs in the Behrens study.  

So far we learned several were charged with abuse, one was shut down for abuse and at least one killed a child.  Please, converse on the topic.  We're trying to understand why Behrens concluded that child abuse helps children.

For the record, I never worked at an Aspen facility, so I'm not sure why you would say that.
--- End quote ---

Just for clarity's sake, once more, I have never been associated with Aspen Education in any way, shape or form.  Still not sure why you're saying that.

Anything to add to the topic, Danny?  Or just doing some trolling tonight?

DannyB II:
Danny wrote:
DJ, stop acting like you are disconnected from this, you were part of this system that as you say, "committed these crimes". Yet we never hear about you in this anywhere. Ya know when Joel and Che speak they usually share their experiences as staff, not you.
DJ, you were staff and you were educated, so stop overcompensating here with this I'm all for Bla Bla Bla. It comes across phony.
Your buddy Paul thinks he has a hot case here, well, I will found out once and for all who is Danny and Whooter. I'll expose them if it is the last thing I do. Problem is, what is there to expose.
My purpose here is, to have balanced conversation.


--- Quote ---Ursus wrote
Danny, how many of the "several people who post here under [your] user name" actually went to Elan or have any clue about this industry to begin with?

"Balanced conversation?" Lol. More like mayhem for the hell of it, eh?
--- End quote ---


Danny wrote:
Well Mr.Ursus we all have been to a Treatment Center but as "Suck It" has shown us it is not that important to reveal the centers. No we are not here for "mayhem" or "for hell of it".
We are gradually moving away from our attack mode and moving into a congenial behavior.
You have to admit, upon first getting here 8-9 months ago we had it pretty rough here from folks. We are just now starting to get our feet under us and truly beginning to grasp a concept of what we want to do here.
Our objective is to communicate with everyone in a respectful manner, (at least try, we will not be Inculcated) and have a aura of openness not to be taken spiritually, only.
We are done fighting, it is stupid and accomplishes nothing. Our goals will never be met if we continue to go down the road we were going. Does this mean we are perfect, no, there are many who will not want to stop fighting with us but we have to be strong and show that we are serious. Play time is over, time to get down to business.
What is our business, honestly it is simple. To post our experiences and opinions truthfully. Simple, right. Well, it should be but that is not always the case.
Ursus try to not condescend to much and think your carrying the "mantle" here. As it states on the front of the Web Site here, "An open discussion about the troubled parent industry". I did not see where the founders wrote a "members only" clause in here. Though I do believe there are many here who believe there are "unwritten rules" here as far as posting goes, just my opinion. Enough said about that. I accept the conditions here, hey, I voted for O'bama in Georgia, in Woodstock Ga.(just outside of Kennesaw) 100% Republican and 98% white, so I know a little about going against the tide.
So as I have been saying, lets y'all move on, let bygones be bygones (or not) but in either case we will try very hard to show a respect for our fellows we had been lacking somewhat previous. Don't know exactly how this plays out but were going to give it a shot. Guys and gals of fornits go easy on us folks also.

Navigation

[0] Message Index

[#] Next page

[*] Previous page