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Programs In Behrens Study Charged with Abuse
Dr. Acula:
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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---There were not many kids at ASR that had serious drug problems. The staff that I had met (and my daughter knew) cared for the kids in their group and many kept in touch long after they graduated. I think the point was that many of the kids would try real hard to get a day in the nurses office to avoid the rigid schedule of program life. So if a kid said he had a stomach ache in a program it may be met with a little more skepticism as compared to a kid in your local high-school saying the same thing and therefore the process to validate the problem may require a few more steps or a longer process.
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Whooter, you spell out -- oh so well -- one of the inherent dangers of programs, namely, that kids' complaints and "stories" are simply not taken seriously. If I were a parent considering a program, this would be a huge red flag for me.
I'd rather have my kid be a slacker or malcontent who is at least still alive, than a kid who had been coerced to "confront his bad attitude" to the point of death.
Brendan James Blum
August 7, 1992 – June 28, 2007[/list][/list]
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There goes, "Mr. Extremist Extraordinare" on his :soapbox: again.
Ursus were you bored today. Not much action in the last few days, is this your way of getting the juices flowing.
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DANNY IS JUST UPSET BECAUSE EVEN A $5.00 CRACK WHORE WILL NOT TOUCH HIS ASS!!!!
elangraduate:
--- Quote ---DANNY IS JUST UPSET BECAUSE EVEN A $5.00 CRACK WHORE WILL NOT TOUCH HIS ASS!!!!
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WHOOOTER WON'T
:jawdrop:
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---Whooter, you spell out -- oh so well -- one of the inherent dangers of programs, namely, that kids' complaints and "stories" are simply not taken seriously. If I were a parent considering a program, this would be a huge red flag for me.
I'd rather have my kid be a slacker or malcontent who is at least still alive, than a kid who had been coerced to "confront his bad attitude" to the point of death.
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We could say the same thing about all the kids who are raped by their teachers in public schools. But you have avoided the fact that kids who are in Residential Treatment are there for a reason. Some of them have manipulated everyone they came in contact with their whole life. When they say the have a stomach ache there needs to be a little bit more information to verify it and the reaction time is different than if a kid which didnt have a history of manipulation were to say he had a stomach ache in public high school.
These are the facts that staff have to deal with. Whether we like it or not.
I know that everyone who has been involved in a program and knows the kids know that I am telling the truth, but it will not be admitted to because it swings some of the responsibility away from the industry which goes against the grain here on fornits. But I am willing to be the one to say it openly and take the heat.
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Troll Control:
Just to be clear, kids at Aspen programs are not in treatment of any kind:
--- Quote from: "Aspen Education Attorneys" ---Aspen Education Group does not provide a therapeutic milieu that is conformative to standards, provide medically recognized therapy, medically accredited personnel, or a treatment centers for mental disorder or drug abuse, Aspen's own lawyers successfully argued in Pence v. Aspen Education Group.
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Can't be in "residential treatment" without the treatment, right? It's more of just a lockup for kids.
Ursus:
Programs involved in Ellen Behren's study, as noted in the OP:
Academy at Swift River,
Aspen Ranch,
Copper Canyon Academy,
Mount Bachelor Academy,
Stone Mountain School,
Pine Ridge Academy,
SunHawk Academy,
Turnabout Ranch, and
Youth Care Inc.[/list]
Pine Ridge Academy was at one point, and perhaps still is, run by the same director et al who oversaw/oversees Youth Care Inc. After all, they are both in Draper, Utah. If you go back to the previously posted articles on the first page of this thread, you'll see that Pine Ridge Academy is also mentioned in most of them.
As an historical aside, here's an ad for Pine Ridge Academy which appears to be from around the time they first opened:
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Deseret News
Sunday, October 31, 1993
--- Quote ---[li]Are you child's grades not up to par?[/li]
[li]Has your child been cutting classes?[/li]
[li]Are you getting calls from school about your child's behavior?[/li]
[li]Is your child hanging around with a bad crowd?[/b][/li][/list]
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