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Programs In Behrens Study Charged with Abuse
Troll Control:
OK, so what we have so far is that the Behrens study concluded that abusing children is effective in biasing them to self-report improvement in order to be allowed to leave the program.
Programs Included in Behrens' Work:
ASR - cited for child abuse by the state of MA
MBA - forcibly closed for "systematic child abuse and neglect" by the state of OR
Youth Care - killed a boy through neglect and was cited by state authorities
Anyone have further info on the other programs behrens concluded were "effective"?
Dr. Acula:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---OK, so what we have so far is that the Behrens study concluded that abusing children is effective in biasing them to self-report improvement in order to be allowed to leave the program.
Programs Included in Behrens' Work:
ASR - cited for child abuse by the state of MA
MBA - forcibly closed for "systematic child abuse and neglect" by the state of OR
Youth Care - killed a boy through neglect and was cited by state authorities
Anyone have further info on the other programs behrens concluded were "effective"?
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:flame: ::unhappy::
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---There were not many kids at ASR that had serious drug problems. The staff that I had met (and my daughter knew) cared for the kids in their group and many kept in touch long after they graduated. I think the point was that many of the kids would try real hard to get a day in the nurses office to avoid the rigid schedule of program life. So if a kid said he had a stomach ache in a program it may be met with a little more skepticism as compared to a kid in your local high-school saying the same thing and therefore the process to validate the problem may require a few more steps or a longer process.
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Whooter, you spell out -- oh so well -- one of the inherent dangers of programs, namely, that kids' complaints and "stories" are simply not taken seriously. If I were a parent considering a program, this would be a huge red flag for me.
I'd rather have my kid be a slacker or malcontent who is at least still alive, than a kid who had been coerced to "confront his bad attitude" to the point of death.
Brendan James Blum
August 7, 1992 – June 28, 2007[/list][/list]
Dr. Acula:
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---There were not many kids at ASR that had serious drug problems. The staff that I had met (and my daughter knew) cared for the kids in their group and many kept in touch long after they graduated. I think the point was that many of the kids would try real hard to get a day in the nurses office to avoid the rigid schedule of program life. So if a kid said he had a stomach ache in a program it may be met with a little more skepticism as compared to a kid in your local high-school saying the same thing and therefore the process to validate the problem may require a few more steps or a longer process.
--- End quote ---
Whooter, you spell out -- oh so well -- one of the inherent dangers of programs, namely, that kids' complaints and "stories" are simply not taken seriously. If I were a parent considering a program, this would be a huge red flag for me.
I'd rather have my kid be a slacker or malcontent who is at least still alive, than a kid who had been coerced to "confront his bad attitude" to the point of death.
Brendan James Blum
August 7, 1992 – June 28, 2007[/list][/list]
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THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS CORRUPT I HOPE THERE IS A GOOD JUDGE ALIVE.....SOMEWHERE.... :on phone:
DannyB II:
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---There were not many kids at ASR that had serious drug problems. The staff that I had met (and my daughter knew) cared for the kids in their group and many kept in touch long after they graduated. I think the point was that many of the kids would try real hard to get a day in the nurses office to avoid the rigid schedule of program life. So if a kid said he had a stomach ache in a program it may be met with a little more skepticism as compared to a kid in your local high-school saying the same thing and therefore the process to validate the problem may require a few more steps or a longer process.
--- End quote ---
Whooter, you spell out -- oh so well -- one of the inherent dangers of programs, namely, that kids' complaints and "stories" are simply not taken seriously. If I were a parent considering a program, this would be a huge red flag for me.
I'd rather have my kid be a slacker or malcontent who is at least still alive, than a kid who had been coerced to "confront his bad attitude" to the point of death.
Brendan James Blum
August 7, 1992 – June 28, 2007[/list][/list]
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There goes, "Mr. Extremist Extraordinare" on his :soapbox: again.
Ursus were you bored today. Not much action in the last few days, is this your way of getting the juices flowing.
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