Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
Programs In Behrens Study Charged with Abuse
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---Just to be clear, kids at Aspen programs are not in treatment of any kind:
--- Quote from: "Aspen Education Attorneys" ---Aspen Education Group does not provide a therapeutic milieu that is conformative to standards, provide medically recognized therapy, medically accredited personnel, or a treatment centers for mental disorder or drug abuse, Aspen's own lawyers successfully argued in Pence v. Aspen Education Group.
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Can't be in "residential treatment" without the treatment, right? It's more of just a lockup for kids.
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Wow, 80% success rate without providing any treatment!!! Think of the profits! lol
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Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---Whooter, you spell out -- oh so well -- one of the inherent dangers of programs, namely, that kids' complaints and "stories" are simply not taken seriously. If I were a parent considering a program, this would be a huge red flag for me.
I'd rather have my kid be a slacker or malcontent who is at least still alive, than a kid who had been coerced to "confront his bad attitude" to the point of death.
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We could say the same thing about all the kids who are raped by their teachers in public schools. But you have avoided the fact that kids who are in Residential Treatment are there for a reason. Some of them have manipulated everyone they came in contact with their whole life. When they say the have a stomach ache there needs to be a little bit more information to verify it and the reaction time is different than if a kid which didnt have a history of manipulation were to say he had a stomach ache in public high school.
These are the facts that staff have to deal with. Whether we like it or not.
I know that everyone who has been involved in a program and knows the kids know that I am telling the truth, but it will not be admitted to because it swings some of the responsibility away from the industry which goes against the grain here on fornits. But I am willing to be the one to say it openly and take the heat.
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Perhaps you speak for yourself or your experience with your own kid.
You do not, however, speak for me.
Troll Control:
Profits, yes. Success, no. Aspen doesn't treat anyone or anything according to their attorneys. Behrens is probably a bit humiliated that they completely discredited her and her work.
More on the profits aspect here. No wonder he's giddy with laughter that Aspen can make money by just locking up the kids. Less effort, less expense, more profit for his masters.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---Profits, yes. Success, no.
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We are halfway there, Lets take a look at the success part:
We have come a long way. A few weeks ago many people had never heard of the Residential Treatment Outcome Study performed by Canyon Research. They looked at close to 1,000 children and families and found that the programs studied where up to 80% effective.
Dysfunction junction and myself managed to put the spot light on this study over the past day or two and were able to nail down that the study was indeed independent and was overseen by an independent third party in the form of a Review Board (WIRB). From WIRB’s documents:
The IRB also reviews the consent form (which they did for the Aspen Study) for the research to make sure that it is accurate. If it approves the research, the IRB continues to review the ongoing research after it starts. (This is called oversight).
WIRB reviewed the consent forms and approved the study and issued “Certificates of approval” as was pointed out in the study itself and presented to the APA.
Here are some supportive links and information as we stand today:
Residential Treatment Outcome-Study
Canyon Research & Consulting: Independent research company that conducted the study.
Western Institutional Review Board: Independent board that approved research and audited the study.
The Western Institutional Review Board approved consent/assent forms and issued Certificates of Approval for the study.
Here are copies of their "Certificate of Approval" forms
Sample 1
Sample 2
at the bottom of page 2 it states:
Federal regulations require that WIRB conduct continuing review of approved research. You will receive Continuing
Review Report forms from WIRB. These reports must be returned even though your study may not have started.
The above study was presented at the American Psychological Association (APA) conference 2006.
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Troll Control:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---Just to be clear, kids at Aspen programs are not in treatment of any kind:
--- Quote from: "Aspen Education Attorneys" ---Aspen Education Group does not provide a therapeutic milieu that is conformative to standards, provide medically recognized therapy, medically accredited personnel, or a treatment centers for mental disorder or drug abuse, Aspen's own lawyers successfully argued in Pence v. Aspen Education Group.
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Can't be in "residential treatment" without the treatment, right? It's more of just a lockup for kids.
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How did Behrens study something that doesn't exist? Did she find Bigfoot there, too? Or the Chupacabra? She might be on to something...
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