Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
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Awake:
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--- Quote from: "Awake" ---To Morgan, and her parents, but especially you
I don’t know if this decision is final or not, but what I am hearing is that they might really be willing to work with you on a reasonable alternative. From what is being said there is a very common power struggle going on in the family dynamic. Everyone needs a sense of control over their lives, and if you are willing to give up a little of it, you may not lose it all. Your parents are expressing that this choice IS their last option based on your behavior, and so has become a situation where you are forcing them to force you to cooperate. If you are made to go to this program without resolving this power issue with your parents this vicious cycle might escalate in worse ways than you can imagine. You can’t ‘win’, you really can’t, and whatever alternative they are open to is a good one. I know you can’t just do away with any resentment or bitterness over what has been going on in your family, but if the control tactics come to the point where you have to go to this place under the current circumstances this might become a seething underlying issue that damages your family relationship beyond repair.
I heard one of your parents say they are not entirely right either, and maybe that makes it hard to submit to the choices they want to give you, but if you are willing to put the right and wrong aside for now and just do it you will avoid a far more painful experience in which you will have to submit to a situation you disagree with much more, and you will submit even if you have to learn to fake the most genuine of emotions. It is a unique kind of suffering that you truly do not want, much harder than what it will take for you if you give in now. It may even be better for you in the end as far as getting what you want out of your family relationship, at least you will maintain a position of more equal footing when you are working through things with them rather than being put at the bottom of the ladder. Someday you will find that you are going to want their support in your endeavors, and maybe even want them in your life as equals and friends, but if the situation gets to a point where you are put in a position of powerlessness it may be impossible to accept that support without also accepting their domination of you. You may get married someday, or accomplish things that you will want their blessing for. That blessing may always carry with it that denunciation of you.
I hope you all can give this one last chance to work it out. You may have to live with unresolved anger and it may be difficult to find a way to get along for awhile, but if you can turn things around now and get through it, IT WILL BE WORTH IT. You are always going to be a family, you will never be able to avoid that even if it becomes forever associated with animosity and interactions that disqualify each other. If you, Morgan, can’t make a really tough move to cooperate with your parents now, you may never come back from this.
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Very nicely stated, Awake. Morgan, you should consider those wise words and try to look at those as the best path to get you to age 18. If you can resolve this locally, working with your parents and with a counselor you will be better off.
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Thank you for your support. I just want to see this work out for the best.
Troll Control:
--- Quote from: "Pile of Dead Kids" ---
Thanks, DJ, hand Whooter another victory in thread derailment. Good thing Morgan's Dad's seen sanity BEFORE the Whospam started. Sorry, Whooter, you derail another thread but still fail again.
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Pile, this is not a "victory" for anyone, especially Whooter. You know as well as I (and Nihilanthic made the same comments as well on this thread) that Whooter is an object lesson to parents about this industry. Frankly, the more he says, the more he exposes himself.
All I did was allow Morgan's parents to see the difference in what is said to prospective parents - the polite, cool, calm, collected sales pitch - and how these same sheisters actually view the children off whom they are making their living. It's a teachable moment. What these people really think and do, out of the public purview, is twisted and demented. Whooter is just a prime example of this - from the fictitious "My kid did well after the program" (i.e., the glossy brochure with smiling faces) story to the desperate and vile commentary about posters who point out that this is factually bereft (i.e. what they do to non-conforming kids behind closed doors).
Whooter is the glossy brochure, while his other usernames (Mitt Romney, SUCK IT, Al Gore, Sarah Palin, RobertBruce ., Queef, John McCain, etc. ad nauseum) are the thugs that actually get their hands on your children.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---
Whooter is the glossy brochure, while his other usernames (Mitt Romney, SUCK IT, Al Gore, Sarah Palin, RobertBruce ., Queef, John McCain, etc. ad nauseum) are the thugs that actually get their hands on your children.
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People logging in under numerous usernames appears to continue to be a source of heartburn for you, Dysfunction Junction. If this is so unsettling to you the fornits admins may be able to change the rules to your liking so that each user can only be assigned one user name. But I don’t have control over that.
I can tell you that of the list of usernames that you laid out above, some are mine and some are not. So you are getting yourself into a frenzy for no reason and appear to be a little paranoid about who is behind each post.
Another option is to ask fornits admins to list out our user names (and string together past anon posts)and post them publicly. I have done this upon request a few times before and am willing to do it again, if it interests you (I have nothing to hide). You have never agreed to this yourself, for some reason, and are afraid to agree to have all your user names revealed along with the anon posts. The last time you were asked this you cut and ran and stopped posting for awhile.
So give it some thought, if you are embarrassed about your past posts and don’t want to have your user names and anon posts revealed openly then just say so and we will drop it. I wont rub it in…… There are two of us talking here and one of us has something to hide and it is not me because I have done this many times before but you consistently continue to run from this subject.
As an aside: If you want to pursue this topic further I would take it to another thread out of respect for Morgan and her parents. There are plenty of other threads where this can be discussed, no need to muck up this one anymore than it is.
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Troll Control:
Lols. I have had one username and one username only for my entire time posting here. You have my permission to verify with the site's admin. Go ahead and have them link up any anonymous posts as well. You have my permission. Please ask them to post the results of your inquiry. We'll all be awaiting the big event with bated breath.
I'm going to go ahead and do a little prognosticating now, too. My predicttion? You'll do neither of the above and just continue claiming I have multiple logins and you'll keep doing it right here in this thread rather than doing what you requested and move it to another thread.
In the meantime, I moved our discussion over here where it belongs to honor your request.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---Lols. I have had one username and one username only for my entire time posting here. You have my permission to verify with the site's admin. Go ahead and have them link up any anonymous posts as well. You have my permission. Please ask them to post the results of your inquiry. We'll all be awaiting the big event with bated breath.
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I knew you would run. We both know that we cant request to have another users posts or user names strung together. You need to get it done yourself. But you knew this .. good try again.
Like I said, I have done it a few times and you keep side stepping it. Just wanted to make it clear who was being open and who wasnt.....Not a big deal. Lets move this off this thread shall we?
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