Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
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--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---In the meantime, I moved our discussion over here where it belongs to honor your request.
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Maybe you missed this earlier. I have moved this to the appropriate thread. Please continue over there.
SUCK IT:
Just read through this thread. Quite the family soap opera, fornits loves these types of threads. Did anyone else laugh out loud at the advice for a 15 year old girl to run away and live on the streets instead of going to a treatment program? Yeah, because a 15 year old girl living on the streets is so much safer, right? Anyone making this argument is completely insane, a young girl is much more likely to be a victim of violence or exploitation on the street, than inside of a treatment center with professionals. If you cannot see this is a truth, then you seriously need a reality check about the situation young teens go through on the street. More disturbing is the posters offering to take the kid in "if only I lived closer" (the most famous internet cop out ever!), that's just wrong. Who takes in a 15 year old girl just because she might be sent to a treatment center? I have to imagine that is illegal, anyways, but hey why not offer bullshit solutions on the internet you have no interest in following through with, all it takes is a few keystrokes.
Pile of Kids and Nihalinic both attempt to make it seem as if they all programs are evil, soul destroying, concentration camps. Kudos on the over dramatization, it might work on gullible parents who might even assume you set foot in a adolescent program yourselves, which I have a suspicion neither of these posters ever did. Call it a hunch, based on their regurgitation of the mythology of what programs are like, a mythology you will only find on fornits. Only someone who's knowledge of programs is built upon this mythology would ever suggest a young teen girl run away to the streets than face a treatment program.
Here is some advice based on reality. Don't run away from home.You will be found and then you will be sent to a more controlled environment treatment program. The people giving you advice here mostly have never even been to a program, let alone the one you speak about. They spend their time creating a narrative that all programs are evil, the kids are forever damaged and nothing good can come of it. More likely than not, you'll make some new friends, do well in the new environment, come home, move on with your life and never look back. Don't make the mistake that people here on fornits want to help you, or will ever follow through with the help that they offer, they are completely full of shit. They have themselves invested personally in a losing argument here, and their egos so big they are only interested in one-upping their competition, in this case Whooter who simply tells it like it is. Then you got the hobby arm chair activists like Pile and Nile who will spin the fornits mythology in a way to scare any parents or kid, but it's just not true. You will not be abused, or brainwashed or mistreated. You will make new friends, find the support of a caring staff and probably do very well. Or you can run away from home and call a lawyer who will never call you back, or wait for the donations and place to stay people here promise you but will never follow through. When you are older you will be thankful that you have parents who care about you, you probably do not realize or appreciate it now, but you will someday. The people here will help you destroy your life to win an argument, don't give them that chance. Good luck in treatment if that's where you end up, it's not nearly as bad as the people in this thread are claiming. In fact, you might even enjoy it.
Pile of Dead Kids:
T-Rex:
I have been watching this thread for a few days now. Does everyone still remember we are talking about a 15 year old girl here. That this thread is not about Pile, Whooter, Dysfunction Junction, Suck It, Ursus or anyone else.
Why do you men have to trail off into your duels of ego, "I'm better then you shenanigans".
Neither of you in my opinion have the moral ground, you disrespect this site and yourselves with your constant bickering. More important you loose site of the overall objective, that was to help Morgan and her parents.
Maybe you did, I read that several of you were PM'ing Morgan with information, that I hope was beneficial.
I can only hope that Morgan and her parents got the help that this Web Site promotes and several of the members purport to want to give.
I would hope in the future that you could refrain from arguing with one another while your helping someone. Everyone has a opinion of the TTI, Morgans parents did not appear naive or gullible. They should hear all sides so they can make a informed decision. I found at the onset that you were doing this very well, until your ego's took over and off you went.
Just my two cents...I know mind my own business.
Whooter:
T-Rex, I think your post, in part, was a good observation. From my vantage point it seemed like many people get overly excited trying to get their point of view heard and there is also an intolerance present towards those who have a differing point of view from their own. Many here find it difficult to hear views which leave the door open to the possible placement of a child in a program and they find that threatening to them and therefore have a need to silence them.
Resistance comes from your ego. When a persons ego takes ownership of their ideas, then anyone who challenges their ideas are treated as a personal challenge, hence the need to defend yourself as if being attacked. Think of it as a free thinker entering an LDS meeting or an anti abortion rally.
If people can just try to keep their ideas separate from their ego, then they will not have this personal attachment to them and we can experience a much more healthier discussion and learn from each others ideas.
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