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How many deaths have occured at Aspen Ed programs so far?

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Whooter:
Whoops:  Here ya go Joel:


--- Quote from: "Oscar" ---From our victim list pages:

1980's: 1 (SUWS - However before Aspen ownership)
2000-2004: 2 (Island View and Lonestar Expeditions)
2005-2009: 4 (SUWS, Aspen Achievement Academy, Youth care and Sagewalk)

They are not among the most deadly programs, but who is setting the numbers determing what kind of number it takes before the entire operation is judged as a failure.
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Anne Bonney:

--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Whoops:  Here ya go Joel:


--- Quote from: "Oscar" ---From our victim list pages:

1980's: 1 (SUWS - However before Aspen ownership)
2000-2004: 2 (Island View and Lonestar Expeditions)
2005-2009: 4 (SUWS, Aspen Achievement Academy, Youth care and Sagewalk)

They are not among the most deadly programs, but who is setting the numbers determing what kind of number it takes before the entire operation is judged as a failure.
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That's not what he asked.  He asked what problems, specifically, Aspen programs are having.

Whooter:

--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Whoops:  Here ya go Joel:


--- Quote from: "Oscar" ---From our victim list pages:

1980's: 1 (SUWS - However before Aspen ownership)
2000-2004: 2 (Island View and Lonestar Expeditions)
2005-2009: 4 (SUWS, Aspen Achievement Academy, Youth care and Sagewalk)

They are not among the most deadly programs, but who is setting the numbers determing what kind of number it takes before the entire operation is judged as a failure.
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That's not what he asked.  He asked what problems, specifically, Aspen programs are having.
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Other than what Oscar has I really dont know.  I rely on him for the details.  Shoot him a quick PM or email and he will point you in the right direction.



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Anne Bonney:

--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
Other than what Oscar has I really dont know.  I rely on him for the details.  Shoot him a quick PM or email and he will point you in the right direction.

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No, you said that some Aspen programs are having problems.  What did you mean by that?

Anne Bonney:

--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
--- Quote from: "Joel" ---2005-2009: 4 (SUWS, Aspen Achievement Academy, Youth care and Sagewalk) >  Sounds like Aspen programs are safe to me Whooter.  How ya' gonna spin it this time Whooter?
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There are Aspen programs which are having serious problems, but taken all together Aspen facilities are among the most safe.
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Which ones and what are the problems?

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