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#1 Post by Guest » Wed Jun 19, 2002 7:45 pmSome of you know that the current staff and former staff that worked and still do at Elan went through the program themselve's.
But the question is do you know why they were sent to Elan in the first place?
Jeffery Gottlieb was sent to Elan for drug abuse and other petty crimes which associate with drugs.He is a director up there to this date and has no qualifications to work with troubled teenagers except what he learned at Elan
Marc Rosenberg also another director was sent to Elan for the same reason's as Jeffery but never seemed to be able to stop his drug problem.The man even brings drugs to work with him and is an abuser towards females.Rosenberg was areested in the mid 90's for spousel abusive and possesion of a controlled dangerous substance.Great to know are kids are in such safe hands huh?
Martin Kruglik "Marty" was sent to Elan school for molesting a small child in the early 70's.He was facing a long jail term if he didn't attend Elan school.During his stay at Elan Marty and Joe Ricci became very good friends and Joe offered him a job to work there.After Marty completed Elan he feared for his life to go back home due to the nature of his outrageous crime.So he was more then happy to liv in Maine and work at Elan.
So do you still think Elan is a good place to send your kids?Before you decide to send them there, you should ask yourself, are my kids safe in the hands of these criminals that run this place?
#2 Post by Guest » Wed Aug 28, 2002 10:59 amhow about the guy who used to piss shit and throw up in his hands and then throw it on people.
or the time they tied him to the chair with restaints and then his sp's dumped him down the stairs while still tied to the chair.
or the time when two kids ran away from elan 3 and the strength sent after them from elan 7 beat the living shit out of them in the woods, and never told staff, how do i know, i was one of them( the strength).
or the time when one of the children there was sexually molested by a staff memeber and they covered it up by sending him to another house.....
the list keeps getting bigger....
and bigger.....
#3 Post by Guest » Sun Dec 22, 2002 6:52 pm"or the time when one of the children there was sexually molested by a staff memeber and they covered it up by sending him to another house..... "
Would this staff member have the name Marty Kruglik?If a male was molested then that sounds like the work of Martin Kruglik.
If it was a female student who got molested then that would be th work of Linda Roy."Fuckin Dike"
This was this feamle resident there at my time that got pregnant by one of the councilers and they gave her a speedy graduation.The counciler was let go and nothing every came of it.I beleive that the female student was 18 yrs old, so i guess Elan saw nothing wrong with it because she was an adult.
Every one of the staff members that work there have a shady back ground,some are very serious.Why parents send their kids there and leave them in the care of these people I will never know.
You know it's just a matter of time before Marty's sexual erges kick in and he goes after another male student.I think all the male and feamle students should be issued mace in case a staff member becomes sexual frustrated and rapes them.
#4 Post by davbetz » Sat Jan 11, 2003 11:29 amThis couldn't possibly be the same Elan I was at in the 80's.Allthough what you mentioned was not appropriate, Much worse things happened there. I witnessed a close fried die in the boxing ring. Phil was a Coordinator Trainee,who complained of headaches. The Staff felt he was malingering so as not have to be C.O.D. and give haircuts from the incident book. it all boiled down to a GM and Phil was put into the ring. after 2 rounds, he fell to the floor, started vomiting and was dead. The next day, they had that hack they called a nurse come tell us he died of an anorism. There were far too many attrocities for me to post here, People on house rejection in the dead of winter, people scrubbing out dumpsters with tooth brushes. And a post above told of "strengths" beating a splitee. This was a common practice. Trackers were give what was called "open physical violence" against anyone who ran away. The house I was in was Elan 7 aka the State house. Many degrading and yes abusive things happened there. Even when you walked in the door, you were made to clean toilets with your bare hands. It was like being thrust into an alien world. I'll agree, there was some "bad" staff there, but remember, they didn't do much of the dirty work, they had us, the residents to run the asylum.
I hope things have gotten better there. They used to call themselves the "Last Resort". It's like no resort I ever want to return to..... :skull:
What are politicians going to tell people when the Constitution is gone and we still have a drug problem?
--William Simpson
#5 Post by Guest » Tue Feb 18, 2003 12:37 pmYou are a fucking idiot. The people who run the school may have fucked up backgrounds, even though i know Marty never raped a kid, but who cares? They saved my life. Just because you were too big of a pansy to make it through the program and someone hurt your petty feelings doesnt mean you have the right to degrade them. And for the guy who said your friend died of an aneurism from the ring, please please please. Spare me. One student died from Meningitis, maybe that was him. But i have a feeling that if Elan KILLED someone, well there would be some legal issues you liar. That is what all of you are, liars. So grow up and leave people alone, it HURTS FEELINGS.
