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Way more kids praise programs than attack them, why is that?

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Ursus:

--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Link to Study
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:roflmao: "Funding for this study was provided by Aspen Education Group"

The above link makes you wade through 'bout two pages of Aspen's summary of the "study" before you come to another link, promising you access to the actual study (download) ... but which merely yields yet another glossy Aspen brochure, essentially a repeat of the same material.

In fine print at the bottom of one of these pages of marketing hype, you are informed that you need to contact Aspen in order to get more information or details about the study.

At NO point was I able to ascertain the identity of the researchers, where the research was conducted, and in what eminent peer-reviewed scientific publication I would be able to find said material. This would have been standard protocol had these results been anywhere near up to snuff.

Perhaps I wasn't looking hard enough.  :D

I say, "Bogus schmogus, baby!"

Whooter:
Yeah looks like you missed it Ursus its at the bottom of page one... same size print as the rest of the page and they even highlighted it so it pops out of the page.  Here take another look!
Link to Aspen study

To read more about this study, visit Canyon Research & Consulting: Independent research company that conducted the study Western Institutional Review Board: Independent board that approved research and audited the study.

Funding for this study was provided by Aspen Education Group.

Who else would you expect to step in and pay for the study?  You dont seem to be too familiar with independent research firms, Ursus.

Here, Take a look at what WIRB provided (I dont think they work for free either):

The study was subjected to oversight by the Western Institutional Review Board.  This review board insures that the study was conducted in compliance with the Department of Health and Human Services and investigates and resolves such concerns as:

Financial conflict of interest.

The investigator or study staff will be considered to have a financial conflict of interest if the investigator, investigator’s immediate family, the study staff, or the study staff’s family
•  Has a financial interest in the research with value that cannot be readily determined (for example, stock that is not publicly traded);
•  Has a financial interest in the research with value that exceeds $10,000 other than payments for conducting the trial as outlined in the clinical trials agreement;
•  Has a financial interest in the research with value that exceeds 5% ownership;
•  Has received or will receive compensation with value that may be affected by the outcome of the study;
•  Has a proprietary interest in the research, such as a patent, trademark, copyright, or licensing agreement;
•  Has received or will receive payments other than payment for the conduct of clinical research from the sponsor that exceed $10,000 in the last 365 days;
•  Is an employee of the agency or company sponsoring the research;
•  Is on the board of directors of the sponsor;
•  Has a financial interest that requires disclosure to the sponsor or funding source; or
•  Has any other financial interest that the investigator believes may interfere with his or her ability to protect subjects.

http://www.wirb.com/



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Joel:
Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010

Whooter:

--- Quote from: "Joel" ---Whooter,

You support Aspen from what I've read in your replies.  Do you refer children to Aspen type programs and/or assist families who want to place their child in  a therapeutic  boarding school?  I ask these questions in lieu of your support for Aspen.
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No, Joel, I dont. If a family contacts me I tell them my experience (which is with Aspen programs) and would refer them to get in touch with Aspen because I know they were successful with my daughter the same as yourself or anyone else would if they had a good experience.



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Joel:
Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010

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