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Way more kids praise programs than attack them, why is that?

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Sam Kinison:
The question is when abuse is administered and sugar-coated as therapy,it's a crime.In October,1977,60 or 70 1st and 2nd phasers in Straight were forced to endure 15 hours without using the bathroom.What therapeutic purpose could that serve?It was a torment(torture)administered by some unqualified 18 year old staff members for probably their own kicks.If a child is at risk,one needs to see the credentials of all clinical staff before trusting their child's well-being to them.Who in the hell are the Lichfield brothers and how could anybody allow those people to sequester their teens,even their misbehaving ones,to people like these,especially on foreign soil where a lot more can happen?For me,that's grounds for looking into Baker Acting a parent.

Redditorsubmod:

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--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---I agree that programs are not effective with all children.  
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The sad part is that you imply that the troubled teen programs are effective with any children. There is no proof that they are. Logic says that they cannot be.

Legitimate psychologists, i.e. those that are not sock puppets for the troubled teen industry, acknowledge that the types of behavioral problems for which teens are sent to troubled teen programs are the kind that naturally resolve as children mature.  The troubled teen program therapists know this. They realize that the therapy they provide is snake oil. The real medicine is time.  The troubled teen industry merely warehouses kids and waits for them to mature. The so called 'therapy' is merely marketing and advertising to the parents.

The troubled teen industry is merely a cash for kids. Corporate greed in its worst form.

Ursus:

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--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---I agree that programs are not effective with all children.  
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The sad part is that you imply that the troubled teen programs are effective with any children.
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Not so. I have never implied any such thing.

Nor have I ever posted ... any such thing.

Nor would I ever post ... any such thing.

Fwiw, the quote you attribute to me, was actually posted by Whooter ... right HERE (begin of his last paragraph).

Just wanted to make sure I cleared up any misconceptions, in case there were any. I certainly wouldn't want to deny anyone credit, especially where credit is so clearly due!  :D

Sam Kinison:
Reading The Tico Times(The local English weekly)coverage of the the Dundee Ranch and Teen Mentor closings,a former 14 year old Dundee Ranch internee stated in 2003,insanely enough,that she didn't mind the PTSD because of all the benefits reaped from her stay there.Needless to say ,her saying she didn't "mind" having PTSD spoke volumes for her state of mind at the time and nailed the Dundee Ranch's coffin better than anything I could say.I would love to interview that 23 year old woman who was 14 at that time and see if she would like to revise that statement.We all know that answer.It's sort of like saying I don't mind having HIV(I don't have HIV for the record)because the encounter was so fantastic.Insanity breeding insanity,the cycle needs to end.Some teens do need an intervention because they are becoming real(not imagined)dangers to themselves.Real therapy is not wholesale and does not come cheap.The parents need to be sure the clinicians have the qualifications to trust their children with.Those people aren't easy to find and they don't have the last name Lichfield.

Laguna:
I think this fact is similar to kids growing being appreciative of their strict parents.  Parents who do not discipline their children when they are doing something wrong are not resembling the real world.  Parents who reward their kids when they are behaving badly do not resemble the world.  The kids are in for a rude awakening when they hit the real world with this type of upbringing.  I think very strict boarding schools give kids this discipline and they realize its value later in life.  What has anyone heard about the chrysalis school montana?

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