Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
Ellen Behren's Industry Study Funded by AEG
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--- Quote from: "James Drilding" ---Very interesting. This marketing material gets pretty flimsy when you start to examine the data. They leave out anything that might look negative. This is not the way studies are done.
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Yes, I worked for Canyon Research during this study and we were all told that the results had to be positive. Many people quit because, as scientists, that's not the way we behave. We should be data-driven, not trying to support predrawn conclusions. This study was rigged before it ever started.
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Thanks for weighing in, Mark. Most reasonable people already understood this fact, but as someone who worked for Canyon, you make the point very hard to dismiss, although some will still try.
Whooter:
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Thanks for weighing in, Mark. Most reasonable people already understood this fact, but as someone who worked for Canyon, you make the point very hard to dismiss, although some will still try.
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I tend to agree, James. Here are some more results
Social conflict and aggressive behaviors decrease. Reduction of these self-defeating behaviors continues post-graduation, with greatest improvement shown at the 12-month follow-up assessment.
These results suggest that Aspen Education Group’s wilderness therapy programs are
teaching important emotion regulation skills, as well as providing a climate for adolescents to rehearse newly acquired strategies to manage negative emotions such as worry, sadness, and anger. Overall findings provide considerable support for the use of wilderness therapy programs in treating resistant adolescents.
Research conducted by: Ellen Behrens, Ph.D., Canyon Research & Consulting, Inc.; Sarah (Salli) Lewis, Ph.D. and Ellen Leen-Feldner, Center for Research, Assessment, and Treatment Efficacy and Arkansas Institute of Developmental Science; Keith Russell, Ph.D., Outdoor Behavioral Healthcare Research Cooperative, University of Minnesota
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--- Quote from: "Mark DeGroot" ---For the record, I did NOT write the above. It appears the poster is so weak of mind and evidence he or she feels the need to impersonate me to try to prove a point. Obviously, this person has conceded that I have credibility and he/she doesn't, or he/she wouldn't be trying to convince people he/she is me. Just goes to show this person has no credibility.
I worked for Canyon and it's an "inside business" creating marketing materials for programs, mostly Aspen programs. Most Aspen programs don't even offer any treatment and all of the ones Canyon looked into provided no therapy or treatment plan, which was the concern of legitimate researchers on our staff. It quickly became clear that this exercise was purely for marketing and sales, not science, so roughly 75% of Canyon employees resigned due to this ethical problem.
It didn't stop Canyon from collecting AEG's money, plus "royalties" for every kid sent to Aspen where the intake revealed the parents relied on this information. Canyon is essentially making referral fees or lasting royalties based on Aspen enrollment, so of course Canyon will make Aspen look successful, even if the data don't suggest that at all.
Ellen was the director of an Aspen program and failed to disclose tht fact to us or to critics of the study. It's a massive red flag in research science.
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That's pretty definitive.
Whooter:
I seem to have troll about me today. Here are some further research results. We are presently conducting a longer term research on the outcome of TBS's. The results to date look very favorable and should be a boast to the industry. Times ahead look to be very prosperous, we are encouraged.
Substance abuse and dependence is significantly reduced, with results lasting through the 12-month follow-up. Students experienced substance-related pathology within the clinically significant and elevated range pretreatment, but symptoms fell within a normal range upon graduation. Most importantly, these results were sustained through the three and 12 month follow-up assessments
Troll Control:
--- Quote from: "Mark DeGroot" ---For the record, I did NOT write the above. It appears the poster is so weak of mind and evidence he or she feels the need to impersonate me to try to prove a point. Obviously, this person has conceded that I have credibility and he/she doesn't, or he/she wouldn't be trying to convince people he/she is me. Just goes to show this person has no credibility.
I worked for Canyon and it's an "inside business" creating marketing materials for programs, mostly Aspen programs. Most Aspen programs don't even offer any treatment and all of the ones Canyon looked into provided no therapy or treatment plan, which was the concern of legitimate researchers on our staff. It quickly became clear that this exercise was purely for marketing and sales, not science, so roughly 75% of Canyon employees resigned due to this ethical problem.
It didn't stop Canyon from collecting AEG's money, plus "royalties" for every kid sent to Aspen where the intake revealed the parents relied on this information. Canyon is essentially making referral fees or lasting royalties based on Aspen enrollment, so of course Canyon will make Aspen look successful, even if the data don't suggest that at all.
Ellen was the director of an Aspen program and failed to disclose tht fact to us or to critics of the study. It's a massive red flag in research science.
I posted this, but am again being trolled by someone trying to impersonate me. Is this how 'program parents' behave here? I've been on other forums where they are respectful even if they disagree. This person represents the worst type of person: the ones who only seek to stifle dialog, like the one everyone calls 'The Who' here.
Someone before said the guy trolling me is him. If so, why doesn't he just make some sort of factual argument to rebut what I've said instead of playing games like a little kid?
I worked at Canyon Research, so just ask if you want to know the truth about their business. this other person pretending to be me obviously is some sort of marketer wanting to change the subject when it gets ugly, just like at Canyon.
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