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Ellen Behren's Industry Study Funded by AEG
Whooter:
.....Most clinical studies that bring new drugs from bench to bedside are financed by pharmaceutical companies
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "wikynm" ---Question, who is suppose to pay for the cost of the testing? Drug companies develop new drugs and need to finance all the testing themselves (that’s part of what makes them so expensive). All the other industries hire outside firms to do the testing or studies or they do it themselves.
There are no free testing firms that I am aware of. Anyone know who would pay to have another companies testing done?
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I know that. You know that and the readers know that. But there is no way in hell fornits regulars are going to accept any studies regardless of the outcome (unless it were extremely negative). That door is closed. If you roll in here with a story of how you were abused you will be treated like royalty and if you come in here with a story of how the program helped you you will be walked out the door because you drank the Kool-Aid. There is no middle road or room for discussion. There has been only one agenda and always will be.
But keep the studies coming, don’t be dissuaded, because there are many readers who are open minded and not tainted by hatred who could benefit from the latest research and studies.
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--- Quote from: "guest4NKQD" ---There appears to be continued confusion around the study conducted by Ellen Behrens. While she and other industry pundits claim it was an Independent Study, nothing could be further from the truth.
1999 Behrens Clinical Director for Youth care
http://cache.zoominfo.com/cachedpage/?a ... me=Behrens
2002 Founded Canyon Research
http://canyonrc.com/experience.html
2003 - 2005 Behrens conducting surveys
http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/pre ... 060817.htm
2004 Behrens doing Consulting for AEG
http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/p ... 0626.shtml
2006 Behrens completes her survey results passed off as Independent Study
http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/p ... 5360.shtml
"We also tried to eliminate all students discharged from the programs before graduation because the clinical staff thought it was actually an inappropriate placement, or when they felt the program couldn't be helpful to the child. As a result, the operating assumption of the study is that the students included in the analyzed data were those who were appropriately placed."
http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/p ... 5494.shtml
Comment: ....It would be helpful to know more about Dr. Behren’s research design and methodology. I presume she drew a random sample for the study; otherwise, the results cannot be generalized to the school/residential population at large.
Jerry W Clark
Dba Behavioral Services Ltd
Reno, NV
No Jerry, she didn't. Families from 9 Aspen programs participated in her "study". She and all her staff have links to Aspen programs.
http://www.natsap.org/Behrens.doc
viewtopic.php?p=215887#p215887
Jan Moss applies the "study" of 9 Aspen programs to entire industry
Disclosure Statement: Aspen Education Group provided funding for this study.
http://www.natsap.org/Outcome%20Study.doc
2006 Behrens is a contributor to NATSAPs "Journal of Therapeutic Schools and Programs.
http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/p ... 5456.shtml
ASPEN EDUCATION GROUP APPLAUDS STUDY
(April 26, 2007) According to an article on PRNewswire, Elliot Sainer, President of Aspen Education Group (AEG), Cerritos, CA, announced "AEG is extremely pleased to learn of the very positive findings from the final phase of our industry's first long-term, multi-year clinical study on the effectiveness of private therapeutic residential programs for adolescents. AEG will continue to advocate for new industry research that will further illustrate and promote the best practices and methodologies and enhance our industry's abilities to produce positive and long-lasting results in adolescent therapeutic education."
I guess he was pleased. He paid her to present AEG in the best possible light.
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This so-called "study" is pure bologna. Methods are bad, all kinds of conflicts, lead "researcher" failed to disclose working for the study target, etc., etc., etc. This industry won't allow scientific examination of it because it would then be proven to be totally ineffective and against ethical and professional standards. Plain and simple. This is why they try to pass off drivel like Behrens' as "research" rather than have a real study done.
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qft, brother. don't believe the hype.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
--- Quote from: "wikynm" ---Question, who is suppose to pay for the cost of the testing? Drug companies develop new drugs and need to finance all the testing themselves (that’s part of what makes them so expensive). All the other industries hire outside firms to do the testing or studies or they do it themselves.
There are no free testing firms that I am aware of. Anyone know who would pay to have another companies testing done?
--- End quote ---
I know that. You know that and the readers know that. But there is no way in hell fornits regulars are going to accept any studies regardless of the outcome (unless it were extremely negative). That door is closed. If you roll in here with a story of how you were abused you will be treated like royalty and if you come in here with a story of how the program helped you you will be walked out the door because you drank the Kool-Aid. There is no middle road or room for discussion. There has been only one agenda and always will be.
But keep the studies coming, don’t be dissuaded, because there are many readers who are open minded and not tainted by hatred who could benefit from the latest research and studies.
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Look hooter, you are being hosed. No one here really cares about studies or testing. Half the shit they smoke, snort or put in their arms have only been tested in some kids basement.
Where is the outrage of lack of long term clinical studies on that shit?
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