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Ellen Behren's Industry Study Funded by AEG
Whooter:
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--- Quote from: "psy" ---Thank you, Guest, for the very informative post, once and for all putting this issue to bed. Your post has been bookmarked and filed under "Fornits troll answers". Stick around. Kickass research that was.
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You welcome, I expect that as more and more studies come out showing the effectiveness of some of these programs the more resistance we will see here on fornits. Originally many were asking for just studies, then independent studies, then long term indpendent studies. Now that the studies are independent long term the critisicim move torwrds the authors and demand for longer term. Each time a study emerges the criteria for acceptance here on fornits changes lol.
Heart studies are done by doctors who have a background and knowledge in the area. I dont think we could find a drug study or medical study performed by someone who knew nothing about the area they are testing or lacked a background.
These studies should be completed by people who have a background and knowledge in the area.
If the results showed that the programs were ineffective then they would be accepted at face value as are the various stories we read about here. But they are not.
There was an independent study which was published in a journal a few years back and that was rejected by fornits regulars also because it showed the schools to be effective.
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The above post was mine, sorry for the confusion.
Troll Control:
--- Quote from: "guest4NKQD" ---There appears to be continued confusion around the study conducted by Ellen Behrens. While she and other industry pundits claim it was an Independent Study, nothing could be further from the truth.
1999 Behrens Clinical Director for Youth care
http://cache.zoominfo.com/cachedpage/?a ... me=Behrens
2002 Founded Canyon Research
http://canyonrc.com/experience.html
2003 - 2005 Behrens conducting surveys
http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/pre ... 060817.htm
2004 Behrens doing Consulting for AEG
http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/p ... 0626.shtml
2006 Behrens completes her survey results passed off as Independent Study
http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/p ... 5360.shtml
"We also tried to eliminate all students discharged from the programs before graduation because the clinical staff thought it was actually an inappropriate placement, or when they felt the program couldn't be helpful to the child. As a result, the operating assumption of the study is that the students included in the analyzed data were those who were appropriately placed."
http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/p ... 5494.shtml
Comment: ....It would be helpful to know more about Dr. Behren’s research design and methodology. I presume she drew a random sample for the study; otherwise, the results cannot be generalized to the school/residential population at large.
Jerry W Clark
Dba Behavioral Services Ltd
Reno, NV
No Jerry, she didn't. Families from 9 Aspen programs participated in her "study". She and all her staff have links to Aspen programs.
http://www.natsap.org/Behrens.doc
viewtopic.php?p=215887#p215887
Jan Moss applies the "study" of 9 Aspen programs to entire industry
Disclosure Statement: Aspen Education Group provided funding for this study.
http://www.natsap.org/Outcome%20Study.doc
2006 Behrens is a contributor to NATSAPs "Journal of Therapeutic Schools and Programs.
http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/p ... 5456.shtml
ASPEN EDUCATION GROUP APPLAUDS STUDY
(April 26, 2007) According to an article on PRNewswire, Elliot Sainer, President of Aspen Education Group (AEG), Cerritos, CA, announced "AEG is extremely pleased to learn of the very positive findings from the final phase of our industry's first long-term, multi-year clinical study on the effectiveness of private therapeutic residential programs for adolescents. AEG will continue to advocate for new industry research that will further illustrate and promote the best practices and methodologies and enhance our industry's abilities to produce positive and long-lasting results in adolescent therapeutic education."
I guess he was pleased. He paid her to present AEG in the best possible light.
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This was a marketing gig paid for by AEG. Behrens failed even to disclose AEG was her employer. Anti-intellectual nonsense, which is worshipped by program parents as the "holy truth" *YAWN* Next, please, this one is dead.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---
--- Quote from: "psy" ---Thank you, Guest, for the very informative post, once and for all putting this issue to bed. Your post has been bookmarked and filed under "Fornits troll answers". Stick around. Kickass research that was.
:notworthy:
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You welcome, I expect that as more and more studies come out showing the effectiveness of some of these programs the more resistance we will see here on fornits. Originally many were asking for just studies, then independent studies, then long term indpendent studies. Now that the studies are independent long term the critisicim move torwrds the authors and demand for longer term. Each time a study emerges the criteria for acceptance here on fornits changes lol.
Heart studies are done by doctors who have a background and knowledge in the area. I dont think we could find a drug study or medical study performed by someone who knew nothing about the area they are testing or lacked a background.
These studies should be completed by people who have a background and knowledge in the area.
If the results showed that the programs were ineffective then they would be accepted at face value as are the various stories we read about here. But they are not.
There was an independent study which was published in a journal a few years back and that was rejected by fornits regulars also because it showed the schools to be effective.
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Not a problem. Thanks for posting this again.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---The above post was mine, sorry for the confusion.
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No need to bother, everyone knows you are the only poster that can use "guest" as a username, whotter.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---
--- Quote from: "psy" ---Thank you, Guest, for the very informative post, once and for all putting this issue to bed. Your post has been bookmarked and filed under "Fornits troll answers". Stick around. Kickass research that was.
:notworthy:
--- End quote ---
You welcome, I expect that as more and more studies come out showing the effectiveness of some of these programs the more resistance we will see here on fornits. Originally many were asking for just studies, then independent studies, then long term indpendent studies. Now that the studies are independent long term the critisicim move torwrds the authors and demand for longer term. Each time a study emerges the criteria for acceptance here on fornits changes lol.
Heart studies are done by doctors who have a background and knowledge in the area. I dont think we could find a drug study or medical study performed by someone who knew nothing about the area they are testing or lacked a background.
These studies should be completed by people who have a background and knowledge in the area.
If the results showed that the programs were ineffective then they would be accepted at face value as are the various stories we read about here. But they are not.
There was an independent study which was published in a journal a few years back and that was rejected by fornits regulars also because it showed the schools to be effective.
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I think I remember that Study. It was independent and showed that programs can be very effective. Do you have a link? I would like to read it again.
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