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Aspen Education Group deceptively markets short term invalid
RMA Survivor:
Who said anything about the Pence family claiming their son was abused? You really do just make this stuff up in your head, don't you? And your statements suggest you are the spokesperson and personal confidant to the Pence Family and know their true intentions. Your mind is a howling wilderness unable to form once cohesive, logical statement, always devoid of facts but always full of personal opinions. And try to say that now and then. That something is your opinion and not fact. It might make you sound more intelligent. Suggesting you know the Pence family intentions, from a factual standpoint is really bizarre.
Whooter:
--- Quote ---Who said anything about the Pence family claiming their son was abused?
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If you would read more here instead of posting you would know that many posters think programs (all programs)abuse the kids or that they are abusive. My point is if there was even the slightest hint of abuse the Pences would have added that on too.
This further reinforces my position that not all programs are abusive.
RMA Survivor:
Yes, it may reinforce your point since you don't agree with others about programs being abusive. But again, your poorly constructed argument is as weak as ever. Obviously, being a survivor (You might have noticed that is part of my moniker) I firmly believe these programs are all abusive. And because I post here, as a survivor, I am already clued in to this fact that most see these programs the same way and that you are the minority here. And yes, had the parents determined their son was abused and felt that they could have proven this in a court of law I am certain they would have added it to their lawsuit. What parent wouldn't? But the fact seems to be, they do on some level believe their son received illegal, mental health treatment, which can be argued is abusive by itself, no matter what form it took. Thus, logic suggests they are indeed suing for abuse, just allowing it, through the law and legalese to take on different form.
Troll Control:
Bottom line is that the kid was allowed to wander the facility completely unsupervised by any Aspen staff. this is not a 'secure and structured' environment to beging with. Then he was arrested and put in jail because of the program's actions in handling the behavior they said they could 'cure' when the parents enrolled him. So they failed to provide the appropriate environment and they failed to offer any therapy services, then to top it off, they left the kid in worse condition than when he arrived - untreated AND in jail AT THE PROGRAM'S REQUEST.
This is a travesty at many different levels, and unfortunately, this so-called 'outcome study' is bogus because it doesn't take into account at all the 50-65% of kids like Matt Pence that never 'graduate' their programs. These palces have a 50-65% failure rate RIGHT OFF THE TOP.
RMA Survivor:
And the other 35% to 50% is the same sock puppets repeatedly posting as anonymous or guests claiming they had a wonderful time and it was the miracle cure they needed.
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