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Aspen Education Group deceptively markets short term invalid
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---Wow, when finally faced with study results done outside the programs you guys really scramble to try to discredit it. There are no ties back to Aspen that I can see. Can you point it out?
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Could you please be a bit more specific as to what you want pointed out? It's too early in the morning for me to be anything but dense! :D
Anonymous:
John D., you are a fool. Ellen Behren's study is a marketing tool. It's as accurate as taking a survey on Fornits about the efficacy of residential treatment. You pick the right group and you get the answers you want.
I seriously think the only reason the pig Reuben posts here is to keep everyone writing on the thread instead of writing their thoughts to people who can actually put extreme heat on Aspen. Aspen legally defined themselves to save ass in one lawsuit, now if the other foot falls they can't flim-flam about the nature of their "service". Someone needs to hit them with a lawsuit and pin Aspen around their lack of service and the deceptive marketing. Aspen should not be using the word "clinical" at all in their advertisements. As a matter of fact, Behren's study touts "clinical" therapy and Aspen has said they do not provide it.
Reuben, your study is void on its face.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---Wow, when finally faced with study results done outside the programs you guys really scramble to try to discredit it. There are no ties back to Aspen that I can see. Can you point it out?
--- End quote ---
Could you please be a bit more specific as to what you want pointed out? It's too early in the morning for me to be anything but dense! :D
--- End quote ---
I know what you mean, moving slow myself in the morning until after that first cup.
My question was.... I cannot find anything that ties this study back to Aspen. As far as I can see the research study was independent of any program. Is there a connection there I am missing?
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---Wow, when finally faced with study results done outside the programs you guys really scramble to try to discredit it. There are no ties back to Aspen that I can see. Can you point it out?
--- End quote ---
Could you please be a bit more specific as to what you want pointed out? It's too early in the morning for me to be anything but dense! :D
--- End quote ---
I know what you mean, moving slow myself in the morning until after that first cup.
My question was.... I cannot find anything that ties this study back to Aspen. As far as I can see the research study was independent of any program. Is there a connection there I am missing?
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You answer a question first - does Ellen Behren profit from program placements?
Whooter:
As far as I can see the only connection is that she does research and consulting for treatment programs. I dont see any business where she sends the kids there herself.
Do a google search on her name and see what comes up... I didnt see any other businesses that she was involved in or ties to Aspen.
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