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Aspen Education Group deceptively markets short term invalid
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---For something to be considered a "study" there needs to be a control group.
There should also be transparency of data, independence of researchers, and peer review.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_control_group
The above cannot be considered a study. If you, John D Reuben, demanded anything resembling research before imprisoning your Michael at Academy at Swift River and SUWS wilderness, you would not have ended up with a dead son.
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Let me try to clear it up for you.
Study:
A work, such as a thesis, that results from studious endeavor
The pursuit of knowledge, as by reading, observation, or research.
So what Aspen did was have an independent firm perform a research study into the effectiveness of their program. They choose 190 students to participate in the study and recorded the effect the program had on them.
Here take a look, the results are very interesting:
Aspen Study
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---
--- Quote from: "John D. Reuben " ---For something to be considered a "study" there needs to be a control group.
There should also be transparency of data, independence of researchers, and peer review.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_control_group
The above cannot be considered a study. If you, John D Reuben, demanded anything resembling research before imprisoning your Michael at Academy at Swift River and SUWS wilderness, you would not have ended up with a dead son.
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Let me try to clear it up for you.
Study:
A work, such as a thesis, that results from studious endeavor
The pursuit of knowledge, as by reading, observation, or research.
So what Aspen did was have an independent firm perform a research study into the effectiveness of their program. They choose 190 students to participate in the study and recorded the effect the program had on them.
Here take a look, the results are very interesting:
Aspen Study
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Let me clear it up for you, John D. For something to have scientific validity as a "study," as opposed to marketing it has to have certain components. There has to be a control group, transparency of data, a degree of independence of assessment, peer review, and material that can be objectively quantified.
An edcon, an org called "outdoor behavioral health"-- founded by aspen and edcons are not "independent." There is no independence, no transparency and no control group, no peer review. Therefore, this is no "study." Hope that helps.
Aw. Your kid is still dead. Guess it doesn't help that much.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---Great find!! Thank you for the link. I didnt realize they had done studies. Here is a summary of the link you provided:
Aspen Education Group’s Outdoor Behavior Healthcare (OBH) programs, also referred to as wilderness therapy, participated in two long-term, independent research studies, most recently from March 2006 through October 2008.red to as wilderness therapy, participated in One hundred-ninety adolescents, ages 14-17, enrolled in three different wilderness therapy programs were assessed at admission; one week after they started treatment; graduation from the wilderness therapy program; three months after graduation; and 12 months after graduation. Adolescent participants in wilderness therapy programs experienced reported struggling with issues such as substance use, depression, anxiety, suicidal ideations, ADHD and academic performance.
Research conducted by: Ellen Behrens, Ph.D., Canyon Research & Consulting, Inc.; Sarah (Salli) Lewis, Ph.D. and Ellen Leen-Feldner, Center for Research, Assessment, and Treatment Efficacy and Arkansas Institute of Developmental Science; Keith Russell, Ph.D., Outdoor Behavioral Healthcare Research Cooperative, University of Minnesota.
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I agree with the original poster that long term studies are more desireable than surveys. Here is the link to the long term, independent study:
Aspen Study
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---
--- Quote from: "John D. Reuben " ---For something to be considered a "study" there needs to be a control group.
There should also be transparency of data, independence of researchers, and peer review.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_control_group
The above cannot be considered a study. If you, John D Reuben, demanded anything resembling research before imprisoning your Michael at Academy at Swift River and SUWS wilderness, you would not have ended up with a dead son.
--- End quote ---
Let me try to clear it up for you.
Study:
A work, such as a thesis, that results from studious endeavor
The pursuit of knowledge, as by reading, observation, or research.
So what Aspen did was have an independent firm perform a research study into the effectiveness of their program. They choose 190 students to participate in the study and recorded the effect the program had on them.
Here take a look, the results are very interesting:
Aspen Study
--- End quote ---
Let me clear it up for you, John D. For something to have scientific validity as a "study," as opposed to marketing it has to have certain components. There has to be a control group, transparency of data, a degree of independence of assessment, peer review, and material that can be objectively quantified.
An edcon, an org called "outdoor behavioral health"-- founded by aspen and edcons are not "independent." There is no independence, no transparency and no control group, no peer review. Therefore, this is no "study." Hope that helps.
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Reminds me of those "studies" Big Tobacco companies like Altria Group* conducts, which are really nothing more than marketing ploys.
:roflmao:
* formerly known as Philip Morris: http://www.altriameanstobacco.com/
Whooter:
Wow, when finally faced with study results done outside the programs you guys really scramble to try to discredit it. There are no ties back to Aspen that I can see. Can you point it out?
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