Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
Long-Term Outcome Studies
try another castle:
--- Quote ---Its frustrating as hell for these programs to get an advocacy group to spend money on them
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Good. Those fuckers steal enough people's money.
Whooter:
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--- Quote ---Its frustrating as hell for these programs to get an advocacy group to spend money on them
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Good. Those fuckers steal enough people's money.
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So thats why they hire third parties to run the studies and not wait for advocacy groups to knock on their door. Really cant blame them. I would want to get the word out too if I had a business plan that was successful.
Anonymous:
Aw shucks, what's the hurry? Programs have only been around like,uhm, forty years. What's that? Oh, you didn't care about "studies" until faced with a little opposition. Ok, now I get it.
Troll Control:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---I'd be curious to see exactly what they'd be studying, considering AEG's admission that they provide no treatment. How does one assess the outcome of non-treatment?
"What do you call a therapuetic program that provides no therapy?" "That's easy! Aspen Education!"
No need to have any studies done until we have some actual treatment to assess.
Right now AEG programs can be correctly and accurately labeled as "child bullpens" because all they provide is three hots and a cot (plus the humiliation they throw in for free).
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Again, how can anybody do a treatment outcome study on an AEG program when AEG has already admitted that they offer NO TREATMENT. To engage Whooter on that topic is pure nonsense. Until they actually provide treatment, which they clearly do not, there's NOTHING TO STUDY.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---I'd be curious to see exactly what they'd be studying, considering AEG's admission that they provide no treatment. How does one assess the outcome of non-treatment?
"What do you call a therapuetic program that provides no therapy?" "That's easy! Aspen Education!"
No need to have any studies done until we have some actual treatment to assess.
Right now AEG programs can be correctly and accurately labeled as "child bullpens" because all they provide is three hots and a cot (plus the humiliation they throw in for free).
--- End quote ---
Again, how can anybody do a treatment outcome study on an AEG program when AEG has already admitted that they offer NO TREATMENT. To engage Whooter on that topic is pure nonsense. Until they actually provide treatment, which they clearly do not, there's NOTHING TO STUDY.
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Well it may not be considered treatment but they do a great job addressing the kids problems and getting them back on track. Their outcome studies are impressive. I think they call it a model. All the kids go through the same stages and then emerge together and are back on track. They can see licensed therapists if their family wants them to or if it is part of their plan. Some are part of the school and others are independent depending on the program.
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