Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
Long-Term Outcome Studies
Troll Control:
I'd be curious to see exactly what they'd be studying, considering AEG's admission that they provide no treatment. How does one assess the outcome of non-treatment?
"What do you call a therapuetic program that provides no therapy?" "That's easy! Aspen Education!"
No need to have any studies done until we have some actual treatment to assess.
Right now AEG programs can be correctly and accurately labeled as "child bullpens" because all they provide is three hots and a cot (plus the humiliation they throw in for free).
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---Castle, I would like to see more studies done also. Without the studies the individual programs can only have the prospective parents talk to those parents and kids who have already been through it to try to gage if it is the right thing for their son or daughter. This is okay but the school will only give you the names of the parents who did well so there is no way of knowing how many kids are successful and how many are not.
It is good to see these studies finally starting to get done. I would like to see more detail but it is better than what we have had over the past decade or so.
Does anyone know if they are doing another one on their boarding schools?
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I heard that they have completed (or near completed) a study on their residential programs. Its a big study that included more than 500 kids I am told. I just hope they include more detail to the public when they release it instead of just the results.
try another castle:
who's "they"? Studies from "they" are bullshit.
The only entity who really SHOULD be doing studies about these places are consumer advocacy groups.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "try another castle" ---who's "they"? Studies from "they" are bullshit.
The only entity who really SHOULD be doing studies about these places are consumer advocacy groups.
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I agree, but if they are not interested in doing it then they need to hire an independent place to do it for them. Its better than not doing any study.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "try another castle" ---who's "they"? Studies from "they" are bullshit.
The only entity who really SHOULD be doing studies about these places are consumer advocacy groups.
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Its frustrating as hell for these programs to get an advocacy group to spend money on them. There are tons of industries and products out there which would love to be spotlighted with a free study by an advocacy group but they just cant do everything.
There are people who make these on-demand (tankless) water heating systems (just to take an example) and they have been trying to get “consumer reports” to test them and rate them on their web site. But they are so backed up with products that they cant do it. So these water heater makers are stuck doing their own testing and reporting or hiring it out. Doesn’t make them any less credible. It would be better to get Consumer reports blessing though, I agree. Just like it would be better to have an advocacy group take on the teen help industry.
Maybe letters to some of these groups, from fornits, would help.
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