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Another death last week at an Aspen program

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Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "Guest" ---Like I have been saying all along.  If these programs were abusing kids then they would be shut down and people would go to jail.  If kids were abused at Sagewalk then these kids would go to the police, like they did, and have the problem addressed.  I read stories on fornits all the time but no one goes to the police so it is hard to believe (sometimes) that they are telling the truth.  Going to the police helps to validates the story in my opinion.  If someone abused me or my family I would be calling 911 in a heart beat not sitting on my computer telling strangers in an open forum.  So you see there is a difference.  If these people at Sagewalk abused kids then they should go to jail and their licensed to operate should be pulled.
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But you forget what you've always said - they are all liars.  The cops hear that from the programs and shine it all on.  You know that.  The programs take all credibility away from the kids.

wild thing:
Students, parents and staff went to the police about CEDU.  They were still under investigation on a variety of charges when they chose to drain all the money and close.  I am thrilled to see another abusive program bite the dust!

wild thing:
Twelve percent of ASR students had attempted suicide prior to treatment, and none reported attempting suicide after treatment.

B.S.  I know of at least 4 CEDU students who committed suicide after CEDU...there are probably several more.

Whooter:

--- Quote from: "wild thing" ---Twelve percent of ASR students had attempted suicide prior to treatment, and none reported attempting suicide after treatment.

B.S.  I know of at least 4 CEDU students who committed suicide after CEDU...there are probably several more.
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I know that a public school teacher raped a student, but that doesnt mean all students get raped.  See what I mean.

Anonymous:
No, I don't.  A teacher raping a student is an aberration.  

Aspen's program, by design, rises to the level of child abuse.  Therefore it is reasonable to assume all Aspen facilities are abusive because they run the same program of abuse.  

Oregon DHS stated clearly that all of the children at MBA were abused.  ALL of them.  It's not us claiming this, it's the state watchdog.  If you are asserting that they are lying, take it up with them, not us.

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