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Another death last week at an Aspen program

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Troll Control:
And you sent them to programs.  You forgot that part.  

One of the primary reasons parents send their teens to programs is because they are sexually active as well.  How un-teenage-like!  Thousands of kids have been sent to programs precisely for smoking pot.  Some because the parents just thought they might be smoking pot.  What you are saying is completely untrue.

We should get back on topic though.  This thread is about a kid who was killed at SageWalk, an Aspen program, that has been ruled a homicide by the Sheriff's Department.  What about this kid who got a death sentence for using drugs?  Aspen killed this kid who was placed there for drug use.  This is a very serious matter.

Whooter:

--- Quote from: "Guest" ---And you sent them to programs.  You forgot that part.  

One of the primary reasons parents send their teens to programs is because they are sexually active as well.  How un-teenage-like!  Thousands of kids have been sent to programs precisely for smoking pot.  Some because the parents just thought they might be smoking pot.  What you are saying is completely untrue.

We should get back on topic though.  This thread is about a kid who was killed at SageWalk, an Aspen program, that has been ruled a homicide by the Sheriff's Department.  What about this kid who got a death sentence for using drugs?  Aspen killed this kid who was placed there for drug use.  This is a very serious matter.
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Yeah, there are all kinds out there.  But I believe the majority of the parents, like myself, are okay with their kids experimenting with what’s available in their environment.  I am glad you can see this too.

Back to Sagewalk.  I didnt see the Sheriffs release that this was ruled a homicide.  Thats interesting.   Do you have a link to the report?

Ursus:

--- Quote from: "Guest" ---Back to Sagewalk. I didnt see the Sheriffs release that this was ruled a homicide. Thats interesting. Do you have a link to the report?
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As far as I know, the final report isn't out yet. To be fair, I would say that this case is technically "believed to be a homicide." Nevertheless, people generally do not write this in an affidavit, let alone release said opinion to the press, unless they are fairly certain.

From the Bend Bulletin article by Erin Golden, "Investigator calls wilderness school reckless in teen's death" (Oct. 20, 2009) (also posted earlier in this very thread):

In an affidavit requesting a search warrant to seek documents and other evidence from SageWalk Wilderness School's Southwest Obsidian Avenue office last month, Lake County Sheriff's Deputy Chuck Poré wrote that he believes Sergey Blashchishen's death was a homicide and the result of criminal mistreatment and reckless endangerment by the school.[/list]

Troll Control:
It's important that this case is being investigated as a homicide.  These people murdered this boy, as programs have done to many other children.  Force-marching him until he drops and denying him proper medical care is the same as putting a gun to his head and squeezing one off.  Aspen Education Group KILLED THIS BOY, like they have killed many others.  When will authorities put a stop to this abuse, neglect and killing in the name of 'helping'???

Whooter:

--- Quote from: "Guest" ---And you sent them to programs.  You forgot that part.  

One of the primary reasons parents send their teens to programs is because they are sexually active as well.  How un-teenage-like!  Thousands of kids have been sent to programs precisely for smoking pot.  Some because the parents just thought they might be smoking pot.  What you are saying is completely untrue.

We should get back on topic though.  This thread is about a kid who was killed at SageWalk, an Aspen program, that has been ruled a homicide by the Sheriff's Department.  What about this kid who got a death sentence for using drugs?  Aspen killed this kid who was placed there for drug use.  This is a very serious matter.
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Its not "them" its "She".  My daughter attended a program for 16 months.  The kids that I knew were not there for smoking pot or being sexually active, although I do believe this to be a problem.  I would like to see a requirement that all kids have a third party sign off on their placement ie, school counselor, therapist, hospital screening etc.  This would cut way down on the number of kids who are placed for no reason like smoking pot or being sexually active.
As far as the Sagewalk event, it seems the authorities are on top of it.

Like I have been saying all along.  If these programs were abusing kids then they would be shut down and people would go to jail.  If kids were abused at Sagewalk then these kids would go to the police, like they did, and have the problem addressed.  I read stories on fornits all the time but no one goes to the police so it is hard to believe (sometimes) that they are telling the truth.  Going to the police helps to validates the story in my opinion.  If someone abused me or my family I would be calling 911 in a heart beat not sitting on my computer telling strangers in an open forum.  So you see there is a difference.  If these people at Sagewalk abused kids then they should go to jail and their licensed to operate should be pulled.

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