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Another death last week at an Aspen program

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Anonymous:
You  have to understand that there are millions of kids in  public school and a fraction of that in programs so the ratio of abuses to students is vastly different.  I am sure if the math were ever done it would be found that the percentage  (P7T
which would be more like 100%)of abuse in the programs as a ratio to students enrolled is vastly greater in programs in spite of the Whoots trying to cloud the issue.  Regardless, abuse is not acceptable in either.  One does not justify the other and the program abuses are systematic and involve all sthe students while public school abuses usually involve a teacher and one other student.  There is also more public outcry and transparancy in public schools while program schools hide behind pubic ignorance, apathy and averision to "troubled teens"

Ursus:
If a kid claims to have been raped in the public school system, the kid's assertions are taken seriously, and it is assumed that the kid is telling the truth unless or until it is proven otherwise. Local authorities get involved.

If a kid claims to have been raped in a program, the kid is usually called a liar and/or is made to feel somehow responsible, is often coerced to "admit" that it wasn't really a rape, and is often publicly humiliated if not taunted in the aftermath. No authorities are notified. Often the parents are not even notified.

There would appear to be a difference between these two responses.

Troll Control:
This is a good point and well taken, Ursus.  This happens to be a great example, because one of the MBA investigation findings is that MBA failed to report a child rape.  This is an enormous problem, and it is a crime.  

We still don't know if the child reported a rape that occurred prior to her enrollment at MBA, or if she was raped by another attendee or staff member right on the premises.  In either case, MBA failed to protect this child.  The staff to whom this was reported and all staff subsequently informed of it and the decision maker who judged this should not be reported all should be in prison.  It's plain and simple.  

If this occurred at a public school, there is no way it would have escaped detction by the proper authorities.  In this case, the child was prevented from telling the authorities.  That would never happen at a public school.

Ursus:

--- Quote from: "Guest" ---That would never happen at a public school.
--- End quote ---
Just to clarify: I'm sure that there have been cases where rapes in public school settings have not been reported. The key difference is that these were individual cover-ups, and not systemic program-wide policies.

Program policies and philosophies are slanted towards blaming the victim and holding the victim responsible for everything that happens to him or her. It's part of "teaching kids to be accountable."

Any normal sane person would experience a visceral reaction when confronted with the sick extremes to which programs take "being accountable." It's hard for the average person to believe. But then again, they are not part of the cult...

Troll Control:
Aspen Education Group MURDERED this child.  Supporters of Aspen believe this murder is the kid's fault.  They are sick in the head.  They believe that kids should know that due to their behavior they are headed for a program and that a possible consequence of their 'therapy' is being murdered.  Makes perfect sense...to a psychpath.

Aspen Education MURDERS CHILDREN in their care.  :poison:  :poison:  :poison:

That is an undeniable FACT.

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