Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
Another death last week at an Aspen program
Whooter:
This little piece was interesting:
The results of this study are not as I predicted. I predicted the large parent and student perception of change in psychopathology, which was found, but I did not predict a return to the normal range of these measures on the BASC psychopathological scales, which occurred on all scales except that of parent reported conduct and student reported depression.
So basically all or mostly all the kids returned to the normal range in most areas. I didnt catch this the first time reading the study.
Troll Control:
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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Here are a few more findings from the study:
The length of time since graduation for this sample ranged from 6.5 to 26.5 months, the average being 13.9 months.
So it looks like a little over a year out on average.
Psychiatric medication was used by 60% of the student sample prior to ASR, and only 46% of the student sample after ASR
This was always my perception. The programs tend to try to get these kids off all the meds if possible. Kids now a days are way over medicated.
None of the students required psychiatric hospitalizations after ASR, though 66% resumed outpatient individual therapy, 10% continued group therapy, and 10% used family therapy.
This is about what I would have expected and experienced with the groups I followed and the one my daughter was in.
Twelve percent of ASR students had attempted suicide prior to treatment, and none reported attempting suicide after treatment.
Great result!!!!
Of the 49% of students who reported that they planned to be sober following graduation, 5% have been completely sober since they graduated, and an additional 12% used substances after treatment, but have now committed to a lifestyle of sobriety.
So basically one kid stayed sober after a year. The rest are normal teenagers.
Despite the consensus that drug use in graduates has declined, since graduation, 64% have used marijuana, 12% mushrooms, 12% cocaine, 12% ecstasy, 6% acid, and 6% abused prescription drugs.
Still lighting up though!!! You gotta love em!! Personally that would be the first thing I would have done is find a source and fire up. I expected this to be higher in the weed category.
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Whooter, Tell us more about the kids smoking pot. you dont think this is a problem? 64% reported smoking after the program... major fail. You lose.
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Does anyone else see the problem with Whooter admitting to being a drug user, glorifying drug use, calling drug-using kids "normal teenagers" and also locking up his own kids at programs for exactly what he's accepting and glorifying right now? No wonder his kids are so screwed up. He gets high, brags about how great it is and when his kids follow in his footsteps he flip out on them and puts them into behvior mod centers. What a jerk and a hypocrite.
Whooter:
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Does anyone else see the problem with Whooter admitting to being a drug user, glorifying drug use, calling drug-using kids "normal teenagers" and also locking up his own kids at programs for exactly what he's accepting and glorifying right now? No wonder his kids are so screwed up. He gets high, brags about how great it is and when his kids follow in his footsteps he flip out on them and puts them into behvior mod centers. What a jerk and a hypocrite.
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Why is smoking pot such a crime for you? Why do you have to label people as "drug user" because they smoke? You are a little out of touch if you think that kids today dont smoke. It is very normal. You should get out more.
Troll Control:
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Does anyone else see the problem with Whooter admitting to being a drug user, glorifying drug use, calling drug-using kids "normal teenagers" and also locking up his own kids at programs for exactly what he's accepting and glorifying right now? No wonder his kids are so screwed up. He gets high, brags about how great it is and when his kids follow in his footsteps he flip out on them and puts them into behvior mod centers. What a jerk and a hypocrite.
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Why is smoking pot such a crime for you? Why do you have to label people as "drug user" because they smoke? You are a little out of touch if you think that kids today dont smoke. It is very normal. You should get out more.
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Oh, I know all about it. The difference is I wouldn't send my kids to programs for it, but you did. You punished them for modeling your own behaviors and attitude. That's your problem. You're a hypocrite.
Whooter:
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Does anyone else see the problem with Whooter admitting to being a drug user, glorifying drug use, calling drug-using kids "normal teenagers" and also locking up his own kids at programs for exactly what he's accepting and glorifying right now? No wonder his kids are so screwed up. He gets high, brags about how great it is and when his kids follow in his footsteps he flip out on them and puts them into behvior mod centers. What a jerk and a hypocrite.
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Why is smoking pot such a crime for you? Why do you have to label people as "drug user" because they smoke? You are a little out of touch if you think that kids today dont smoke. It is very normal. You should get out more.
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Oh, I know all about it. The difference is I wouldn't send my kids to programs for it, but you did. You punished them for modeling your own behaviors and attitude. That's your problem. You're a hypocrite.
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No I didnt and I dont think many other program parents do either. I am sure there are some that do but that isnt the norm. Smoking pot and drinking are normal process for kids growing up, they need to experience and experiment with their enviornment and those things that are available to them.
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