Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
John David Reuben's Son, Max Reuben and HLA
Troll Control:
--- Quote from: "Jill Ryan" ---Adjudicated children: There were a number of children who had been convicted of a crime and were sentenced to probation rather than jail time, part of that probation requirement was that they enroll and complete a program like HLA. Those adjudicated children that were remanded to HLA, kept a probation officer
and met with them throughtout their stay at HLA and were not appropriate for HLA's program. A letter was required from HLA to their probation officer stating the date of enrollment and date of projected completion. The child must then complete the program to fulfill his probation requirements. According to
documents I received, there was only one child that left HLA to fulfill jail time, then returned to complete HLA's program. There were children that were found guilty of blowing up a car, shooting out parent's window, incest, misdemeamor felonies, etc. This does not include psychiatric diagnosis of pedophilia, schizophrenia,bulemia, or any other 'patient' anomalies that were enrolled at HLA, per HLA tending psychiatrists reports. Again, if you wish to research this, there is a form you may fill out with the ORS under "Georgia's Sunshine Laws" which grants public access, thus to their reports on HLA(the hidden ones). The managing attorney for the ORS is Nina Edidin. According to Nina Edidin, at the time, she stated, she 'thought' in her letter to my attorney that the ORS only kept files for 2 years, but as we re-stated, we were fortunate that the request was under two years. Miraculously documents dated back to 1998, 2001, etc. appeared. A letter will not suffice as it took a year and a half seeking ORS compliance as a citizen, and only after a private attorney representing me, stepped in, did I receive actual investigative reports, including inter-office emails of all parties, including Assistant District Attorney Mark Cicero. Note: I was repeatedly told by the ORS that they did not understand what I was requesting. The ORS is shut tight to protect themselves where HLA is concerned and it is no different with LCSO as the ORS found in their investigation. What goes around, comes around. The cost is just over $700.00 and you shall receive paper documents, sloppily re-dacted, somewhere between 2500- 2900 pages. One may do the same with LCSO, there you will find the 911 calls within a short period of time 8 attempted suicides, 'Life flight', 5 run-aways, rape, etc. (co-operation, again is limited). The 911 call logs were also passed out during a Lumpkin County Board meeting re: Mountain Brook Academy. One may be able to call the Lumpkin County Board and ask for a copy of them.
These documents will provide answers to what you are asking of Robert and confirm what Robert states and unfortunately more regarding the politics in Georgia. Protection under the Law only seems to relate to Georgia's governing agencies covering their own arces as apparent throughout the ORS report.
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Who's lying, now??
So can anyone explain why Max was forbidden from going to his mother's funeral? Still waiting for that. I also think it's abuse to prevent a child from seeing his dying mother or going to her funeral. That's pure psychological abuse, which HLA runs in spades.
TheWho:
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--- Quote from: "RobertBruce" ---Well you've yet to answer the question: What do you consider to be abuse.
As to other allegations, things you're already aware of, and have been verified by programmies of HLA have been the starvation diet on restrictions, and work assignment details. Just because you dont believe them doesnt make it false Peter.
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Out of the almost 3,000 pages on HLA there are documented suicide attempts, run aways , all their 911 calls but there hasn’t been any abuse. Why is that?
Your word doesn’t count, Bruce because it has already been established that you do not tell the truth.
Let me ask you something. If posters like yourself come onto fornits and make up stories about the owner burning down buildings in an attempt to discredit the place why would they stop at that. Why not say HLA tried to starve them to death or work them to death? Or abuse them like you would have readers believe. Where are the police reports which support this so called abuse. I didnt see the report mention starvation attempts and excessive labor.
As far as your posts are concerned. Just let us know when you have them all linked together. The only reason you would not have this done is if you had something to hide. I have done it a few times. If you are honest like I am then just have it done. We will take a look at them then.
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No there wasnt any mention of arson, starvation, excessive labor or abuse. Those were made up to try to make HLA look bad. We can see from the report that HLA is open with their information. They call the authorities/911 when a child tries to harm themselves or if a child is raped. In fact they have been known to be overly cautious where the children are concerned i.e. in at least one instance they called in a "life flight copter" after a child attempted to take their life. These are the same procedures used in the public school system when the same events occur.
So if posters here claim there was arson or they were abused these accounts and details would be in the report also. But they are not.
TheWho:
I would give RobertBruce a chance to explain himself before throwing him under the bus. Maybe they missed the part in the report where HLA tried to starve him to death or used excessive physical labor as an abuse tactic. Give him time to bring the evidence to the table before convicting him. Although the report did seem thorough.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---I would give RobertBruce a chance to explain himself before throwing him under the bus. Maybe they missed the part in the report where HLA tried to starve him to death or used excessive physical labor as an abuse tactic. Give him time to bring the evidence to the table before convicting him. Although the report did seem thorough.
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So between last night and this morning you requested, received, read and critiqued a 3000 page report, huh, whooter? More lying, huh?
TheWho:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---I would give RobertBruce a chance to explain himself before throwing him under the bus. Maybe they missed the part in the report where HLA tried to starve him to death or used excessive physical labor as an abuse tactic. Give him time to bring the evidence to the table before convicting him. Although the report did seem thorough.
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So between last night and this morning you requested, received, read and critiqued a 3000 page report, huh, whooter? More lying, huh?
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If you go back afew pages you will see that "Jill" has the report. There was no mention of Attempted Starvation or Excessive physical labor nor arson. Lets give Bruce a chance before we call him a liar, but if it isnt in the report then we know he made it up.
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