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John David Reuben's Son, Max Reuben and HLA
Troll Control:
Max Reuben is the second son of John D. Reuben of "SavingTeens.org" (STICC). Max was sent to HLA from 2004 to 2008.
His brother, Mike, was sent to SUWS and then to ASR. Because his real issues were never dealt with at these kiddie prisons, he killed himself last year with an overdose of heroin. Prior to going to SUWS and ASR, Mike had never been a drug abuser. He became one after four years of detention.
Did any of you go to HLA with Max? If so, I'd like to know if HLA allowed him to attend his mother's funeral.
HLA uses family tragedies to gain compliance from their detainees. They will say things like "If you want to go to your mom's funeral, you better straighten up right now, or you won't go!" Nothing like mind-raping a kid who just lost his mom, right?
Did any of you know Max well? Did you meet his dad? If so, what was his dad like in person? On fornits he's a little coward 'who' hides behind his supposed anonymity and degrades people who had bad experiences at HLA and ASR, even though his neglect and ASR's abuse led to his son's death.
I just wonder what kind of parent does such a lousy job of raising his kids that they both 'needed' kiddie jail time.
Any feedback is appreciated, especially about how HLA handles Max's mom's death.
Thank you in advance for your thoughtful replies.
Anonymous:
I was at hla with max reuben, actually his roommate for a few weeks. He was sent to hla for huffing stuff (duster/paint/glue i dont remember his exact poison of choice) along with probably a number of other underlying issues i did not have the time to become aware of. when he arrived he had a scar on his face from when he passed out and a can of something he was huffing froze to his face.
dont attack the reubens. that family obviously has some serious issues, and it is obvious that you wont be changing JDR's mind considering how fucked up his life is. i''m sure they already have plenty to deal with minus fornits.
TheWho:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---Max Reuben is the second son of John D. Reuben of "SavingTeens.org" (STICC). Max was sent to HLA from 2004 to 2008.
His brother, Mike, was sent to SUWS and then to ASR. Because his real issues were never dealt with at these kiddie prisons, he killed himself last year with an overdose of heroin. Prior to going to SUWS and ASR, Mike had never been a drug abuser. He became one after four years of detention.
Did any of you go to HLA with Max? If so, I'd like to know if HLA allowed him to attend his mother's funeral.
HLA uses family tragedies to gain compliance from their detainees. They will say things like "If you want to go to your mom's funeral, you better straighten up right now, or you won't go!" Nothing like mind-raping a kid who just lost his mom, right?
Did any of you know Max well? Did you meet his dad? If so, what was his dad like in person? On fornits he's a little coward 'who' hides behind his supposed anonymity and degrades people who had bad experiences at HLA and ASR, even though his neglect and ASR's abuse led to his son's death.
I just wonder what kind of parent does such a lousy job of raising his kids that they both 'needed' kiddie jail time.
Any feedback is appreciated, especially about how HLA handles Max's mom's death.
Thank you in advance for your thoughtful replies.
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Now tell us honestly. Would anyone believe this posters if they were describing their stay at a program? This person never even met the Reubens or went to ASR yet they are describing in detail the events which lead up to the sons death. This is what we are faced with when someone starts saying they were abused in a program. Are they telling the truth or just trying to make the program they attended look bad like this poster is doing to the Reubens?
Fair question? Where is the dividion between truth and lies?
Troll Control:
I think what is posted is a fair depiction. Two kids in programs = bad parenting, period. These kids had problems that should have been addressed by real help. Sadly, instead they were locked up in kiddie jails.
Mike never had a drug problem, but as soon as he got out of ASR, he started one. Why is that? What about his life prior to being parolled from ASR drove him to drugs? We'll never know now. He's dead. Like many other ASR parolees.
Average age to death for an ASR inmate seems to be around 23-25 years. That's just the data. Sorry, but data doesn't lie. There happen to be lots of corpses surrounding ASR and other teen warehouses. The correlation is very high. Facts are facts.
TheWho:
--- Quote ---I think what is posted is a fair depiction. Two kids in programs = bad parenting, period.
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This is very consistent with the thinking on fornits. So every child in a program is due to bad parenting (100%). Great thinking!
--- Quote ---These kids had problems that should have been addressed by real help.
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Some feel the kids don’t have any problems at all. Which is it?
--- Quote --- Sadly, instead they were locked up in kiddie jails.
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Hmm.... Jails, okay.
--- Quote ---Mike never had a drug problem,
--- End quote ---
You know this to be fact.
--- Quote --- but as soon as he got out of ASR, he started one.
--- End quote ---
You know this to be fact.
--- Quote --- Why is that? What about his life prior to being parolled from ASR drove him to drugs? We'll never know now. He's dead. Like many other ASR parolees.
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No links no evidence. This is why I post here. You speculate and make up stories to suit your agenda. What are readers to believe here? In one post you make up stories and in another you are desperate to make people believe you were abused in a program. Where do the stories end and the facts begin?
--- Quote ---Average age to death for an ASR inmate seems to be around 23-25 years. That's just the data. Sorry, but data doesn't lie.
--- End quote ---
Link, to study?
--- Quote ---There happen to be lots of corpses surrounding ASR and other teen warehouses. The correlation is very high. Facts are facts.
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Lets see the facts then. I see the words you write, but no evidence. This is when you take off and run.
Your post has made my case, thank you.
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