Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
John David Reuben's Son, Max Reuben and HLA
Anonymous:
NOT!
Troll Control:
One morw time: Why was Max disallowed form visitng his dying mom and from going to her funeral?
Is that "therapy"? Or even helpful in any way?
Troll Control:
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--- Quote from: "Guest" ---If it was bad parenting or bad genes at least the kid got the benefit of a fresh start and was given a few more years. I feel bad for the parents who cannot afford to get their kids help and they lose their kids to drugs even earlier. Hopefully this new healthcare plan will be able help more of these parents out.
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You cant even say it is bad genes either. No one can adjust their parenting style to effect a desired outcome. If a parent tries the best they can they cant make a kid become a priest if the kid isnt up for it. Kids are going to be what they are going to be. The best a parent can do is guide them. If the kids are broken then maybe they need to be broken down further and reassembled again and that is what programs do. Simple Behavior modification (like time outs, or being grounded) isnt going to be effective for some teens. Some kids dont do well in programs but what is the alternative? Let them off themselves earlier?
Overall it is the best alternative for many families.
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This is idiotic. If a kid is going to "off himself" he needs to be in a PSYCH HOSPITAL not a teen warehouse. This is why they "off themselves" later. No help is offered at HLA or ASR, etc so the kid still has the same problems when he gets home. Instead of getting real help the patrents just kick the can down the road a ways, like John Reuben did,
TheWho:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---One morw time: Why was Max disallowed form visitng his dying mom and from going to her funeral?
Is that "therapy"? Or even helpful in any way?
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Where was it said that he didnt go to his mother funeral? I didnt read that. Give the school a call, they make arrangements for the child to attend funerals if it is the immediate family or if the family requests the child to be taken out for a short time.
The child needs to be accompanied at all times so they request that a parent fly out to meet the child at the school and then accompany the child back again.
TheWho:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---If it was bad parenting or bad genes at least the kid got the benefit of a fresh start and was given a few more years. I feel bad for the parents who cannot afford to get their kids help and they lose their kids to drugs even earlier. Hopefully this new healthcare plan will be able help more of these parents out.
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You cant even say it is bad genes either. No one can adjust their parenting style to effect a desired outcome. If a parent tries the best they can they cant make a kid become a priest if the kid isnt up for it. Kids are going to be what they are going to be. The best a parent can do is guide them. If the kids are broken then maybe they need to be broken down further and reassembled again and that is what programs do. Simple Behavior modification (like time outs, or being grounded) isnt going to be effective for some teens. Some kids dont do well in programs but what is the alternative? Let them off themselves earlier?
Overall it is the best alternative for many families.
--- End quote ---
This is idiotic. If a kid is going to "off himself" he needs to be in a PSYCH HOSPITAL not a teen warehouse. This is why they "off themselves" later. No help is offered at HLA or ASR, etc so the kid still has the same problems when he gets home. Instead of getting real help the patrents just kick the can down the road a ways, like John Reuben did,
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Exactly, the overdose was probably an accident. If the kid was suicidal he would have been getting the help he needed. STICCs has Childrens hospital as part of their advisory board and this was the owners kid so its safe to assume the kid wasnt trying to off himself.
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