Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
John David Reuben's Son, Max Reuben and HLA
Troll Control:
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--- Quote --- I just wonder what kind of parent does such a lousy job of raising his kids that they both 'needed' kiddie jail time.
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The majority of kids who attend a program have siblings who are doing just fine. So the quality of the parenting isn’t a common denominator or potential cause of the child needing placement. They are normal families who happen to have kids who are at risk. Also you are one of the few here who recognize that the kids are in need of help (or kiddie jail time as you call it). Many here feel the children are placed unnecessarily or dont need help at all.
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But it IS a common denomenator. This guy screwed up both of his kids, locked them both up and one is dead because of it.
Troll Control:
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--- Quote from: "Guest" ---Does anyone know is 4 years the average stay for HLA? Has anyone else here gone for that long?
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14 months is the average stay. Kids rarely stay past 16 months. The 2004-2008 is the time he spent in highschool (not necessarily at HLA). If there are kids that stayed 2 years or more, it would be extremely rare.
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Most kids get pulled in a couple of months. HLA retains less than half of it kids. 50% never make it to graduation off the top in the first few months and of the remianing 50% less than half finish the program.
TheWho:
They used to be called Reform schools and have evolved over time to be called Therapeutic schools or Behavior modification schools, same stuff, nicer name. HLA takes kids that cant make it in more traditional schools like the Darlington School in Rome, Ga or Brandon Hall in Atlanta. Some kids just need a kick in the ass to get started. Some kids are there a year others are there longer, depends on the kid and how hard they work.
TheWho:
If it was bad parenting or bad genes at least the kid got the benefit of a fresh start and was given a few more years. I feel bad for the parents who cannot afford to get their kids help and they lose their kids to drugs even earlier. Hopefully this new healthcare plan will be able help more of these parents out.
TheWho:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---If it was bad parenting or bad genes at least the kid got the benefit of a fresh start and was given a few more years. I feel bad for the parents who cannot afford to get their kids help and they lose their kids to drugs even earlier. Hopefully this new healthcare plan will be able help more of these parents out.
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You cant even say it is bad genes either. No one can adjust their parenting style to effect a desired outcome. If a parent tries the best they can they cant make a kid become a priest if the kid isnt up for it. Kids are going to be what they are going to be. The best a parent can do is guide them. If the kids are broken then maybe they need to be broken down further and reassembled again and that is what programs do. Simple Behavior modification (like time outs, or being grounded) isnt going to be effective for some teens. Some kids dont do well in programs but what is the alternative? Let them off themselves earlier?
Overall it is the best alternative for many families.
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