Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS)
Can someone please call the FBI, CPS, whomever?
FemanonFatal2.0:
--- Quote ---So, CAFETY, or whomever has the contacts to do something, please do so
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--- Quote ---LOL... You haven't been around long, have you?
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Yea seriously, just to give you an idea I'm going to quote CAFETY's section in their brochure about reporting abuse
--- Quote ---"Unfortunately there are significant obstacles to effectively
report abuse in a residential treatment center. These may
include but are not limited to, censored contact with anyone
who is not a current staff or employee of the facility, limits
in state policy within Child Protective Services - particularly
within facilities which are privately funded, the stipulation
that the reporter must be an adult, and often times the
report will be ineffective unless the reporter can show
evidence that the abuse is occurring at the present time.
There are also significant gap from the time the abuse is
reported and the actual execution of an appropriate
investigation."
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Currently we are working on creating a system to handle reports of abuse and putting together some material to grant advice to people who are trying to file complaints against an RTC... but clearly, CAFETY has no more "contacts" then you do.
If this is something you are serious about your gonna have to put in the work to gather indisputable evidence, you might need to wait until the child is out of the school and encourage HIM to file a report alleging abuse. I know its surprising that abuse in RTC's is so wide spread and the authorities aren't doing anything about it but unfortunately there are just many different factors that make it a significant challenge. There are thousands of kids in programs as we speak, we cant file reports on behalf of each individual kid based on every rumor that flies across Fornits, I'd like to think our efforts are a bit more streamlined, were attempting to cut the snake at the head so to speak. I cant speak for everyone here because we are all kinda doing our own thing based on our own beliefs about this issue, but I think we are doing what we can to address the big picture, the root of the problem. and until we are completely successful stuff like this boy and the 10 lb box is just outside the scope of our control.
As Psy said, if we ran to the authorities everytime we here about something like this we would quickly create a distrust of our cause. We already have to fight the stigma of being activists and unfortunately even human rights activists get a stigma... this kind of thing is just not something we can place our reputation on alone, these kinds of issues we can only compile and report.
I'm sorry.
blombrowski:
My first reaction when I read this was "hmm, calling CPS might be a good idea", then I looked for the parent's name and the youth's name. No info.
CAFETY has no special powers. Mostly anything we can do, you as a concerned citizen can do yourself, though it helps with complex cases to coordinate efforts and have relationships with professionals with certain skill sets. If we had the parents name, and her name was attached to the posting. a call into CPS could be reported against the parent. Given the situation, you might consider putting a call into Disability Rights California who has the legal authority to inspect abuse at all facilities in California where any disabled individual is treated. This kind of treatment could be perfectly legal in California, I know that in some states this would be considered corporal punishment and would be banned. A call from a concerned individual who saw the post and just wanted to make sure that such practices were legal would be perfectly legitimate. Chances are neither CPS or DRC would take any action, but at least you can put this on their radar.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "psy" ---
--- Quote from: "CAFETY, please HELP" ---Please, theres no reason to argue against TRYING to do something about this situation.
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Yes there is. If you come off as an extremist, you damage the entire cause as it reflects on all of "us". If and when there is actually something of import to bring to the feds, the'll just ignore it as "another one of those loons". Either you are incredibly naive, or you're doing this on purpose (troll of type agent provocateur). Frankly, on matters like this, I trust my instincts When something seems fishy, it usually is. If in the rare possibility that I am wrong and you are just naive. Please, for the sake of us all, don't go encouraging others to call the feds up with things like 10 pound bags. Get something solid.
--- Quote ---So, CAFETY, or whomever has the contacts to do something, please do so
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LOL... You haven't been around long, have you?
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If you think being forced to carry 10 pound bags ALL the time because of some vague charge upon your character does not qualify as abuse than you are an obtuse moron, and should not be administrating a forum that is dedicated to calling attention to human and civil rights abuses. If something smells fishy it might be your lower lip.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "blombrowski" ---My first reaction when I read this was "hmm, calling CPS might be a good idea", then I looked for the parent's name and the youth's name. No info.
CAFETY has no special powers. Mostly anything we can do, you as a concerned citizen can do yourself, though it helps with complex cases to coordinate efforts and have relationships with professionals with certain skill sets. If we had the parents name, and her name was attached to the posting. a call into CPS could be reported against the parent. Given the situation, you might consider putting a call into Disability Rights California who has the legal authority to inspect abuse at all facilities in California where any disabled individual is treated. This kind of treatment could be perfectly legal in California, I know that in some states this would be considered corporal punishment and would be banned. A call from a concerned individual who saw the post and just wanted to make sure that such practices were legal would be perfectly legitimate. Chances are neither CPS or DRC would take any action, but at least you can put this on their radar.
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CPS seems to be very inconstant with investigating these issues. I know people who have been investigated for "seeming angry" while applying for disability...but something as cruel as "parent" ordering their kid they had locked up carry weight around all the time "too make him less comfortable" and refusing to even visit him because he is not good enough there is nothing that will be done? Please, bloom, or cafety, at least try with this and call the relevant authorities.
BuzzKill:
I've not read every post here - but I did read the apparent post from an apparent WWASP parent saying their son was being made to pack around 10 pounds of books until he "gets real". I read were FemanonFatal said she was glad to read WWASP had modified their behavior, even if only a little bit. (I paraphrase) But I would like to point out - if the boys folks are told he is packing 10 pounds of books, reality might be a 50 pound rock. This parent post confirms for me the sad fact nothing has changed.
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