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Can someone please call the FBI, CPS, whomever?

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Anonymous:
My son seems to be so unbelievably comfortable down there that I requested to make him more uncomfortable. He is now carrying around a 10 pound box of books which is to symbolize all the crab he is carrying around. But he still doesn't get it. We decided not to go to the Family weekend because we don't see any results. Let's hope that works. But Keith, thanks a million for sharing your frustration. Sometimes I have the feeling we are the only ones being discouraged. It's good to see we are not alone.--


To all the people  implying that the above does not qualify as a description of abuse, please investigate the defintions of physical and emotional abuse, and torment. In every sence of the word, esepcially considering these "parents" paid to have their teen son abducted and imprisoned in an oversight-free for-profit gulag, this is a post describing major psychological and physical abuse and cruelty.

http://www.ridalaskaofchildabuse.org/EmotionalCA.html

http://www.findcounseling.com/journal/c ... abuse.html

http://rakesprogress.wordpress.com/2009 ... ild-abuse/

blombrowski:
Let's be clear here.  What this parent is describing is abuse.  Let's roleplay calling CPS however.

Reporter: Hi I'd like to report an incident of child abuse
CPS:  Please describe the abuse that you witnessed?
Reporter:  A parent on an internet forum said that Sunrise Academy was making her son carry 10 lbs. of books around as punishment and she supported it
CPS:  Do you know this parent or child
Reporter:  No
CPS:  Do you know the name of this parent or child
Reporter:  No
CPS:  Well sir, without the child's or the parent's name there's nothing we can do about it

Have you ever been on the subway or train and witnessed a child being slapped and wanted to call CPS?  Without being able to identify the perp there's really nothing that can be done or that CPS is willing to do.

Disability Rights California might take an interest in a case like this, but given the P & A's shortage of staffing, they might consider this a wild goose chase that isn't worth their time, still worth a call into them though.  Investigating MBA took one staff member, a supreme court case, and ten current and former students who were willing to come forward, and the school is still open and receiving students.

FemanonFatal2.0:

--- Quote ---To all the people  implying that the above does not qualify as a description of abuse, please investigate the defintions of physical and emotional abuse, and torment.
--- End quote ---

Listen I never said this didn't constitute abuse, in fact i believe I stated that this is only the tip of the ice burg of what other abuses are undoubtedly happening here. It's not that I don't care about this boy, believe me the only reason I am here on this forum in the first place is because I care about being a part of the solution. What I said was in order to for us to make an effective claim we will need to bring forth more evidence. Believe me I have considered the undercover thing myself, if my name weren't all over the internet opposing problems I would have taken the job they were hiring off craigslist to work at Oceanside.

Your getting all riled up at us because we mention there are significant roadblocks to completing your request, that just isn't helping the situation. You want us to help you will have to devote yourself to bringing us something we can report. OR if you need to see this done YOU have just as much power to call CPS as we do, so why is it all of a sudden we are to blame for inaction when you haven't bothered to make a call yourself.

I'm sure all of us would be happy to assist in an investigation if one is launched on behalf of this child, but beyond that we don't have any more authority to influence state agencies until legislation is passed to make it possible for us to do so. THAT is what CAFETY is doing to help this boy and all the other kids and families effected by the troubled teen industry... so be patient, in time things like this will be easier to report or be done away with all together.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "FemanonFatal2.0" ---
--- Quote ---To all the people  implying that the above does not qualify as a description of abuse, please investigate the defintions of physical and emotional abuse, and torment.
--- End quote ---

Listen I never said this didn't constitute abuse, in fact i believe I stated that this is only the tip of the ice burg of what other abuses are undoubtedly happening here. It's not that I don't care about this boy, believe me the only reason I am here on this forum in the first place is because I care about being a part of the solution. What I said was in order to for us to make an effective claim we will need to bring forth more evidence. Believe me I have considered the undercover thing myself, if my name weren't all over the internet opposing problems I would have taken the job they were hiring off craigslist to work at Oceanside.

Your getting all riled up at us because we mention there are significant roadblocks to completing your request, that just isn't helping the situation. You want us to help you will have to devote yourself to bringing us something we can report. OR if you need to see this done YOU have just as much power to call CPS as we do, so why is it all of a sudden we are to blame for inaction when you haven't bothered to make a call yourself.

I'm sure all of us would be happy to assist in an investigation if one is launched on behalf of this child, but beyond that we don't have any more authority to influence state agencies until legislation is passed to make it possible for us to do so. THAT is what CAFETY is doing to help this boy and all the other kids and families effected by the troubled teen industry... so be patient, in time things like this will be easier to report or be done away with all together.
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I am not getting "all riled up" about anything. I was called a "troll" several times, and was told, essentially, what is being done to this boy is a-ok. Hence, some of my responses.

In my experience, "arbitrary" person calling these bodies do not get the same response as an agency, for what that’s worth. But I understand you now, no one at any agency is willing to make any call.

Anonymous:
Also, let me apologize for being somewhat rude, or anything  negative. I really only want this poor kid not to be tormented. :'(
I know that "I" am not the person suited to stopping this madness because of my own PTSD and "fear" problems. I don't even stand up for myself when I get assaulted or abused. I am just not capable of standing up for other people very well, like I assume some of you are. So I ask "cafety" to help, or whomever. Please do not assume that makes me, I don't know, whatever  various things I have been accused of being.

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