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Lacey:
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--- Quote from: "TheWho" ---If you had more compassionate staff and program model, Mary, I think you would have a better view of the industry.
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Who, people like Mary and I have the BEST view of the industry. I personally have been to 9 seperate treatment programs of varying lengths of time. You observe from the comfort of your home, living vicariously through some (more than likely) fictitous story your "daughter" brought home from one program. You think that gives you the "better view of the industry"?
You turn your computer off at night when your done on here playing your little role, and these horrible places are erased from your day. Blinked out, just like a computer moniter. You walk about your home, you go to work, you get in your car and drive away if you'd like. But the children held captive by the programs you defend are still out there. Unable to even tell the truth about whats happening to their parents, the only people who could help them.
So you tell me. Who has the better view of the industry? Would it be you, who devotes a measly hour or two a day to coming onto a website to troll and protect whatever it is your interest is in this... Or would it be someone who for years on end is forcibly subjected to every aspect of the behavioral modification industry?
Who. You have nothing to say here. You do not know what you are talking about.
I once again pose the question. For someone who is remarkably removed from the situation... What interest do you have in this that you are trying to preserve? Because we already know its not this idealistic and valiant defense of truth you so proudly touted earlier, because what you are defending is in fact NOT true. So Who. Why are you here?
TheWho:
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--- Quote from: "TheWho" ---If you had more compassionate staff and program model, Mary, I think you would have a better view of the industry.
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Who, people like Mary and I have the BEST view of the industry. I personally have been to 9 seperate treatment programs of varying lengths of time. You observe from the comfort of your home, living vicariously through some (more than likely) fictitous story your "daughter" brought home from one program. You think that gives you the "better view of the industry"?
You turn your computer off at night when your done on here playing your little role, and these horrible places are erased from your day. Blinked out, just like a computer moniter. You walk about your home, you go to work, you get in your car and drive away if you'd like. But the children held captive by the programs you defend are still out there. Unable to even tell the truth about whats happening to their parents, the only people who could help them.
So you tell me. Who has the better view of the industry? Would it be you, who devotes a measly hour or two a day to coming onto a website to troll and protect whatever it is your interest is in this... Or would it be someone who for years on end is forcibly subjected to every aspect of the behavioral modification industry?
Who. You have nothing to say here. You do not know what you are talking about.
I once again pose the question. For someone who is remarkably removed from the situation... What interest do you have in this that you are trying to preserve? Because we already know its not this idealistic and valiant defense of truth you so proudly touted earlier, because what you are defending is in fact NOT true. So Who. Why are you here?
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Let me ask a question. How come you view correcting a misconception as defending a program. There was information presented that HLA had 100% failure during their licensure inspection by the ORS. It was stated that they failed all the random inspection points. Not one person challenged this on the board. If I or someone stated that HLA passed the inspection with flying colors with 100% success rate we would have posters coming out of the woodwork calling the poster a liar and challenging their statements. You have been here long enough to know this. So why if there is false information presented which shows programs in a bad light then it is somehow acceptable and if I point this out then I am automatically a defender of programs and must be getting kickbacks or getting paid.
The reason I believe you don’t see this is because you were in 9 programs and your judgment is clouded and you cannot be objective or fair. If someone states they were abused at HLA you take it face value. If someone says they had a daughter who was helped by a program then they must be an imaginary daughter because this is not something you can comprehend. If you look a little closer at it I am the one who is BETTER able to look at both sides of the industry and see the good as well as the bad where you are not capable of a fair view. You have been damaged by the industry and therefore cannot be objective.
So the more pressing question would be why are you still here? What value can you add by your presence? How can you assess the truth and work to get it to the top and expose the corrupt areas?
Inculcated:
Lacy got a program pimp to finally admit that this industry is damaging. Sure, this was in an attempt to side step the points posed in her post, but it’s astounding none the less.
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--- Quote from: "TheWho" ---If you had more compassionate staff and program model, Mary, I think you would have a better view of the industry.
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Who, people like Mary and I have the BEST view of the industry. I personally have been to 9 seperate treatment programs of varying lengths of time. You observe from the comfort of your home, living vicariously through some (more than likely) fictitous story your "daughter" brought home from one program. You think that gives you the "better view of the industry"?
You turn your computer off at night when your done on here playing your little role, and these horrible places are erased from your day. Blinked out, just like a computer moniter. You walk about your home, you go to work, you get in your car and drive away if you'd like. But the children held captive by the programs you defend are still out there. Unable to even tell the truth about whats happening to their parents, the only people who could help them.
So you tell me. Who has the better view of the industry? Would it be you, who devotes a measly hour or two a day to coming onto a website to troll and protect whatever it is your interest is in this... Or would it be someone who for years on end is forcibly subjected to every aspect of the behavioral modification industry?
Who. You have nothing to say here. You do not know what you are talking about.
I once again pose the question. For someone who is remarkably removed from the situation... What interest do you have in this that you are trying to preserve? Because we already know its not this idealistic and valiant defense of truth you so proudly touted earlier, because what you are defending is in fact NOT true. So Who. Why are you here?
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You have been damaged by the industry and therefore cannot be objective.
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Program pimp evidences circular "logic".^
TheWho:
--- Quote from: "Inculcated" ---Lacy got a program pimp to finally admit that this industry is damaging. Sure, this was in an attempt to side step the points posed in her post, but it’s astounding none the less.
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It would be short sighted of us to believe the industry can help everyone. I don’t think we could name one industry which hasn’t damaged anyone.
Lets say we were talking about the car industry. Do you think that a person who has been in 9 different cars and experienced a few major car accidents and ended up damaged could be objective about the car industry? Would you support pulling every car off the road? Or would you expect a person who had seen both the good and the bad side of the industry, like myself, to be more objective and work towards exposing the bad areas and rising up the good?
If you would like to point out the sidesteps I would be happy to respond.
Inculcated:
That end might be better served by you actually answering the questions posed to you by Lacey...instead of dismissing her perspective.
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