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TheWho:
Actually that brings up a good point.  If we could get this information out to the kids it may help to prevent some of them from being placed.  If the kids feel having to follow the rules at home and go to school everyday is too tough and abusive they should experience the structure of a program for a few weeks, I am sure many of them would go back to school and straighten up.  These kids don’t know how good they have it until it is too late.

FemanonFatal2.0:

--- Quote from: "NeilW" ---Actually that brings up a good point.  If we could get this information out to the kids it may help to prevent some of them from being placed.  If the kids feel having to follow the rules at home and go to school everyday is too tough and abusive they should experience the structure of a program for a few weeks, I am sure many of them would go back to school and straighten up.  These kids don’t know how good they have it until it is too late.
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This state of mind is exactly what makes parents (or program owners) like you the abusive kind. You think your teenager MUST follow the rules, must obey you at all times and must attain to every social norm... well sorry to break it to you but the teen years are exactly opposite of normal. You really believe that punishment will teach them some kind of lesson, but once you cross the line between consequences and abuse (ie a program) you have gone way to far just to try to keep your kid in line. I just don't understand why parents think they are allowed to fuck with their kids psyche... it just doesn't make sense.

I wish you people would just stop breeding.

TheWho:

--- Quote from: "FemanonFatal2.0" ---
--- Quote from: "NeilW" ---Actually that brings up a good point.  If we could get this information out to the kids it may help to prevent some of them from being placed.  If the kids feel having to follow the rules at home and go to school everyday is too tough and abusive they should experience the structure of a program for a few weeks, I am sure many of them would go back to school and straighten up.  These kids don’t know how good they have it until it is too late.
--- End quote ---

This state of mind is exactly what makes parents (or program owners) like you the abusive kind. You think your teenager MUST follow the rules, must obey you at all times and must attain to every social norm... well sorry to break it to you but the teen years are exactly opposite of normal. You really believe that punishment will teach them some kind of lesson, but once you cross the line between consequences and abuse (ie a program) you have gone way to far just to try to keep your kid in line. I just don't understand why parents think they are allowed to fuck with their kids psyche... it just doesn't make sense.

I wish you people would just stop breeding.
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So you would just let you kid not go to school and sit around all day at home?  Would picking up the hypodermics off the floor so the toddlers dont play with them too strict or should we just all learn to step over them so Johnny doesnt get upset again when confronted with the rules.
I am sure your kids turned out well if you have any.

FemanonFatal2.0:

--- Quote from: "NeilW" ---
--- Quote from: "FemanonFatal2.0" ---
--- Quote from: "NeilW" ---Actually that brings up a good point.  If we could get this information out to the kids it may help to prevent some of them from being placed.  If the kids feel having to follow the rules at home and go to school everyday is too tough and abusive they should experience the structure of a program for a few weeks, I am sure many of them would go back to school and straighten up.  These kids don’t know how good they have it until it is too late.
--- End quote ---

This state of mind is exactly what makes parents (or program owners) like you the abusive kind. You think your teenager MUST follow the rules, must obey you at all times and must attain to every social norm... well sorry to break it to you but the teen years are exactly opposite of normal. You really believe that punishment will teach them some kind of lesson, but once you cross the line between consequences and abuse (ie a program) you have gone way to far just to try to keep your kid in line. I just don't understand why parents think they are allowed to fuck with their kids psyche... it just doesn't make sense.

I wish you people would just stop breeding.
--- End quote ---

So you would just let you kid not go to school and sit around all day at home?  Would picking up the hypodermics off the floor so the toddlers dont play with them too strict or should we just all learn to step over them so Johnny doesnt get upset again when confronted with the rules.
I am sure your kids turned out well if you have any.
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No, actually my parenting style is much more involved, one that involves building trust and respect between you and your children and being more of a mentor than a punisher. You would really be surprised how well behaved a child will be when they are happy at home.

To tell you the truth I don't have kids, however I have been a Professional Nanny for 4 years and have taken more child development, child psychology and parenting classes than more than most parents I know. I have successfully raised 3 (2 of which would be considered struggling) teenagers who's main problems are that their parents are too self absorbed and self righteous to ever show them love or give them proper parenting. Perhaps if you were actually willing to listen I would be able to give you some parenting pointers but from the looks of it you already get yours straight from the program.

TheWho:

--- Quote from: "FemanonFatal2.0" ---
No, actually my parenting style is much more involved, one that involves building trust and respect between you and your children and being more of a mentor than a punisher. You would really be surprised how well behaved a child will be when they are happy at home.

To tell you the truth I don't have kids, however I have been a Professional Nanny for 4 years and have taken more child development, child psychology and parenting classes than more than most parents I know. I have successfully raised 3 (2 of which would be considered struggling) teenagers who's main problems are that their parents are too self absorbed and self righteous to ever show them love or give them proper parenting. Perhaps if you were actually willing to listen I would be able to give you some parenting pointers but from the looks of it you already get yours straight from the program.
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Nothing personal but Nannies are basically baby sitters on steroids.  They are not (or should not be) a replacement for parents.  Also, parents cannot adjust their parenting style to create a desired outcome.  Each child is not a clean slate when they come into this world and each will react differently to identical external stimuli.  So mutual respect and nurturing are both good things but not all kids will respond to them the same way.  Hiring a Nanny is no replacement for parenting as well as a program is no suitable replacement either.  But they are both necessary sometimes.  

My parenting did not come from any of the programs.  In fact most parents are not even introduced to programs until the parenting cycle is near completion and the child is in their teen years.  The program may help the parents adjust a few things to help facilitate the childs transition back into the family, but that is about all I have seen.

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