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Anonymous:
Scott T - sounds like you're a PUREist.  Go ahead and deny it, I won't believe you.  I'd like to see what the Parent Manual REALLY says.

Carey:

--- Quote --- Scott T - sounds like you're a PUREist. Go ahead and deny it, I won't believe you. I'd like to see what the Parent Manual REALLY says.
--- End quote ---


Anon, let me try to make you understand something based on my own personal experience.

The enrollment agreement between Dundee and my ex says, "If joint custody, both parents must sign."  Now keep in mind that that is exactly what the Dundee Enrollment Agreement states. It is their rule...their words.  It is in writing and is part of the court documents concerning the domicillary case between me and the boys father. The court has in its possession a copy of that agreement that was provided by the boys father. Well, my kids were admitted to Dundee without my signature on that document.  How could that have happened if everything they say in their documents  is followed as stated.  Let me remind you, I have always had JOINT custody of my kids.

My point is, what they say in writing is not what they follow.  They say what they want you to hear and they do what they want to do.

Anonymous:
Did this happen because your ex and the boys were living in another country and they were admitted to a program outside of the US?  No, I'm not a lawyer, but was that a loophole since they weren't in the U.S.?  Sounds like both your husband and Teen Help used that to get your boys admitted.  There I go assuming.  Doesn't make it right even if it could have been legal to do so.

Deborah:
Anon wrote:
No, I'm not a lawyer, but was that a loophole since they weren't in the U.S.? Sounds like both your husband and Teen Help used that to get your boys admitted.

Anon,
What I learned from my experience is that your court ordered divorce decree supercedes any program's policies. That's important for parents in similar situations to know.

For instance, I could show up unannounced on any of my regularly scheduled weekends for my visitation and take my son without their permission. My ex placed our son 1,500 miles away because I had previously demonstrated, with our older son and the younger son's first placement, that indeed I would exercise my rights.

There is no rational explanation for what Carey's ex did. No legal loopholes. Like so many, I would imagine that they were hoping she would just go along, or not have the financial resource to accomplish what she in fact did. They rolled the dice...and lost.

As for the policies. My experience is with a non-WWASP facility in Ga. many, many times they violated their stated policies. On one ocassion when I challenged them and posted my compaint on a message board, they revised the policy and sent a copy to all parents. The "Parent Manual" was useless, and rarely reflected what was actually occuring.

For instance, there was NO mention of the "restriction diet", or that a teen could be on restriction for months on end for minor infractions.

I could cite other violations but won't. Suffice it to say, that what you are told is not necessarily the truth, and the parent manual is designed to impress parents.

Deborah

Carey:

--- Quote ---Did this happen because your ex and the boys were living in another country and they were admitted to a program outside of the US? No, I'm not a lawyer, but was that a loophole since they weren't in the U.S.? Sounds like both your husband and Teen Help used that to get your boys admitted. There I go assuming. Doesn't make it right even if it could have been legal to do so.
--- End quote ---


It happened because Dundee did not care if they had my signature or not.  Their only concern was that my ex was able to pay.  

While the boys were still there and I was seeking to obtain as much information as possible about the place I had a friend email Dundee pretending that he had a child who he wanted to place there.  He spoke with Joe.  He asked Joe whether Dundee would be willing to take his child if he could not get his ex wife's signature.  He told Joe that he did not think his wife would agree with the idea.  You know what Joe said.  He told him not to worry, they could make it real difficult for her.  He told him that was one of the good things about where Dundee was located.  
Joe was not real smart.  I have a copy of that email too.

The boys have remained under the jurisdiction of the courts here where we live.  That has never changed.  So as far as him placing them in that "program" he had no problem.

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