Author Topic: Wayne E. Winder and Tammy Johnson at Majestic Ranch (WWASP) (Read 1991 times)

psy · « **Reply #15 on:** February 03, 2009, 02:52:22 AM »

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perhaps we should tell PETA on this one since the kids may be forced to do this against their will??

And/or the animal liberation front:
http://www.animalliberationfront.com/

LOLs

Anonymous · « **Reply #16 on:** February 03, 2009, 03:45:16 AM »

petakillsanimals.comhttp://

Anonymous · « **Reply #17 on:** February 03, 2009, 04:23:50 AM »

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ive done calving and branding. this is NOT for 7-14 year old city kids. i know friends in their 20 and 30 who have gotten broken legs, ribs, and burned from doing this. (i got a deep bruise down to the bone due to a cow in labor calving) it is dangerous and deadly.)

perhaps we should tell PETA on this one since the kids may be forced to do this against their will??

well, it's just evil to force 7 year olds to do such cruel things. I am vegetarian. But most non-vetarians would have problems
with tortuing animals...How can they FORCE kids to TORTURE animals. That constitutes psychological torture of a child.

Anonymous · « **Reply #18 on:** February 03, 2009, 04:52:17 AM »

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psy, can u add the full name majestic ranch AND wwasp to the thread title so it registers up on google?

OK. I had to remove the torture bit to stay within the charachter limit, but now all keywords are included.

thank you

Anonymous · « **Reply #19 on:** February 03, 2009, 05:08:14 AM »

http://www.animalliberationfront.com/Ne ... at-Cat.htm

FROM ALO. It made me cry. So touching. It's Off topic but it raised the question, it a cat can be nice to a rat, why not a parent her/his own child?

Anonymous · « **Reply #20 on:** February 03, 2009, 05:19:59 AM »

http://www.animalliberationfront.com/Ne ... unnies.htm

Maybe these parents who don’t want their kids can send them to the foster mother pictured above. Unlike these human children’s legal guardian, this dove has a nurturing instinct, and unlike WWASP will look after their unwanted children for free and without abuse and cruelty.

Hmm, maybe that's the selling point for the Majestic Ranch program parents:the abuse and cruelty.

firstresponder · « **Reply #21 on:** February 03, 2009, 05:35:23 AM »

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ive done calving and branding. this is NOT for 7-14 year old city kids. i know friends in their 20 and 30 who have gotten broken legs, ribs, and burned from doing this. (i got a deep bruise down to the bone due to a cow in labor calving) it is dangerous and deadly.)

perhaps we should tell PETA on this one since the kids may be forced to do this against their will??

well, it's just evil to force 7 year olds to do such cruel things. I am vegetarian. But most non-vetarians would have problems
with tortuing animals...How can they FORCE kids to TORTURE animals. That constitutes psychological torture of a child.

ok let this farm boy break this down.

1. branding. not used very much now that we have ear tags and RFID implants. just like you dog or cat could have. so why they do it i dont know. wast of time and energy. thought cheaper than ear tangs let alone RFID.

2. calving. ok this is where i get graphic sorry. calving is where you help the cow give birth. some times in a breach birth you have to put it in a ketch pin block its rear hooves (that is a major thing) lube up your arm and i mean your whole arm to the sholder reach inside her and turn the calf around (ya not something for young children to be doing)

castration. now a days we dont cut the balls off. we band them off. think of it like this. we put them in the pin or hold them down (here again not an easy feat a few week old calf can throw a man about 100 pounds let alone a 6 month old calf) get a special castration tool place basically a rubber band on it open the jaws and roll the rubber band onto the top part of the calfs sack. wait about a week and they fall off. less painful than cutting and less risk of infection or accidentally stabbing the calf due to their movement. cutting the balls is now days considered not very healthy.

also if your doing calving the cow is not too dam happy when you are around her calf. ive been hit while tagging. mom came up from behind me and sent me for one hell of a ride.

a lot of this stuff other than the ear tag is now done by vets and for good reason. less stress on the animal less injury's to the farm hands. it is a very dangrous thing to be around a 1000 pound cow. and if they get pissed at you (and it can be any time and there is no such thing as a pet cow trust me on that) your screwed. i know guys who have been trampled, kicked (you live but your hurt like all hell) and dragged. these are grown men who have done this most of their lifes and they still get hurt. i grew up around a farm, there is no farmer who would ever let anyone under 10 near a calving cow, let alone in the dam pin when calving. its usually around the 15 to 18 range that they get in. some sooner depending on how they can handle it. but we are talking farm kids not city kids like are on MR. this smells like a death sentence waiting to happen and a lot of useless tasks that can hurt the animals.

Anonymous · « **Reply #22 on:** February 03, 2009, 12:16:21 PM »

Do you think important people with the power to stop programs read fornits? I am just wondering why people waste their time preaching to the choir on fornits. You should be emailing all this stuff to people who can do something about it. Instead you post it here and pat yourselves on the back for your great reserarching skills and only 5 people read it and nothing happens.

Anonymous · « **Reply #23 on:** February 03, 2009, 05:46:52 PM »

That's a good point. I hope someone has been emailing this to someone who can do something about it?

psy · « **Reply #24 on:** February 03, 2009, 06:11:11 PM »

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Do you think important people with the power to stop programs read fornits?

Actually, they do. At the GAO hearings I attended in september, a member of the GAO who I had never met before came up to me to say hi, and told me that he was a fan of my posting on Fornits.

This might be a crazy place, but like Ginger says, it's like porn: everybody reads it, but nobody wants to admit it. WWASP shut their server's hole down within a day. Lon Woodbury, I hear, reads this site religiously.

Maia Szalavitz reads Fornits and gained a lot of interviews for her book through Fornits. Lawyers hang here too as well as LEO types. All sorts read Fornits... though not everybody posts.

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I am just wondering why people waste their time preaching to the choir on fornits. You should be emailing all this stuff to people who can do something about it.

Absolutely. doing both is even better!

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Instead you post it here and pat yourselves on the back for your great reserarching skills and only 5 people read it and nothing happens.

Ya have a point. But such action has to start someplace. Fornits is great for networking and organizing such action. Maybe not a whole lot is done here directly, but a hell of a lot is started, or sparked here.

Anonymous · « **Reply #25 on:** February 18, 2009, 06:43:51 AM »

Anonymous · « **Reply #26 on:** February 24, 2009, 02:16:36 PM »

bumped for evil

Anonymous · « **Reply #27 on:** March 31, 2009, 11:58:55 PM »

Anonymous · « **Reply #28 on:** April 15, 2009, 12:46:18 AM »

umped for evil. Will the feds ever stop this?

Che Gookin · « **Reply #29 on:** April 15, 2009, 07:48:31 AM »

Shit I hope so.

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