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Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---You're not very convincing. Who cares what the stated policy is if they clearly don't follow it? A bunch of these violations are for items where they didn't even follow their own policy. Right now they have policy that says "Never commit physical violence against a child" and they did it anyway.
Since they don't follow their own reporting policy the conclusion can be drawn that there were likely other events of abuse/neglect that didn't make it into their own reports to be reviewed by the state. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that if the kid puncher were alone with that kid that report would never have been filed.
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Of course you could speculate that, any of us could speculate anything we want, But the fact is that they documented the incident, there is no getting around that fact.
We could also applaud them for documenting the details of the incident.... dates times, how long he was restrained, who hit who first etc. Depends on your point of view, I guess.
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Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---You're not very convincing. Who cares what the stated policy is if they clearly don't follow it? A bunch of these violations are for items where they didn't even follow their own policy. Right now they have policy that says "Never commit physical violence against a child" and they did it anyway.
Since they don't follow their own reporting policy the conclusion can be drawn that there were likely other events of abuse/neglect that didn't make it into their own reports to be reviewed by the state. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that if the kid puncher were alone with that kid that report would never have been filed.
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Of course you could speculate that, any of us could speculate anything we want, But the fact is that they documented the incident, there is no getting around that fact.
We could also applaud them for documenting the details of the incident.... dates times, how long he was restrained, who hit who first etc. Depends on your point of view, I guess.
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Given that there were two other staff who witnessed — and to some degree participated — in this assault, it would have been sheer folly to pretend that it never happened.
Joel:
Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---Given that there were two other staff who witnessed — and to some degree participated — in this assault, it would have been sheer folly to pretend that it never happened.
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Exactly, that’s why there is so much emphasis placed on documenting each event no matter how small. To you and I a teenager acting out and getting in a fight may seem normal ,especially in a program for troubled teens, but for the childs family and for tracking purposes it is important to document the events. Agencies can use this data to determine if one school seems to have a higher incidence than normal which could spark an investigation… or just the opposite, if a program has zero incidences this may raise an eyebrow as to whether or not they are following the proper reporting procedures.
Even public schools now document every incident and submit reports in triplicate to the appropriate agencies. Most of this is driven by lawsuits and if a staff person doesn’t follow procedure (and puts the school at risk, exposes them to lawsuits) he/she risks getting fired and never working in the profession again.
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Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---Given that there were two other staff who witnessed — and to some degree participated — in this assault, it would have been sheer folly to pretend that it never happened.
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Exactly, that’s why there is so much emphasis placed on documenting each event no matter how small.
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Not really. From the standpoint of a staff member covering their ass, if there are no witnesses, why not report it in a way that minimizes their fault, if at all?
In fact, that is exactly what happened. The Facilities Manager claimed the kid injured himself whilst trying to bite him. Pity for the Facilities Manager that ... the other two staff members didn't quite see it that way. They witnessed the Facilities Manager punching the kid in the mouth, with the kid getting a bloody lip as a result of that punch.
As to "documenting each event no matter how small," we do not know that, nor can infer it from how staff behaved, and documented or didn't document, in this particular incident. If anything, we can infer that the Facilities Manager may be prone to covering his ass at the expense of the truth.
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