Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Daytop Village
DAYTOP Did Me Great Harm in the Long Run
psy:
--- Quote from: "HONESTY" ---it appears you have not gotten the help you need.
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Define "help you need", or for that matter, why don't you define "recovery"? This is not a stupid request. Answer the question and you'll see where i'm going.
SEKTO:
In a cult, abusive organization, or abusive relationship it does not matter if the information presented is true. If the information presented is negative about the group or any member of the group, then you cannot say it. Usually such negative information will be will be labeled as slander, and if one persists in speaking it or writing it one can be disciplined severely; speaking ill about or being at all critical of the group can result in the speaker (or in this case, writer) being demonized, dehumanized, poked fun at, humiliated, or what have you.
You gave me an old-school haircut and really put me in my place, huh?
Wow, I admit it; you are right, Honesty.
Yes, I admit to God, yourself, and all participants in this forum that I am a hypocrite, a failure, an idiot, and a weak person in general.
It is such a blessing to have good friends like you, who'll point out my imperfections and help me to correct my attitude when it is needful for you to do so.
I am humbled and welcome the opportunity to receive rebuke from you in the future.
Thanks for your wonderful service.
When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Do you see what I am driving at?
In other words, a lot of times people who leave high control groups (and this particularly happens with people who were part of leadership in their group, as I suspect that you are) still behave as if they are still in the group when interacting with others in another group situation, regardless of whether that kind of behavior is appropriate in the new situational context.
That is what I see you doing ; you are behaving this situational context as if you are still in your old group, namely DAYTOP.
Actually, I suspect that you are presently part of DAYTOP leadership.
Is this assessment correct?
You are translating your (past or present) position as a leader within the DAYTOP organization, into this situation and it's not appropriate for you to do so.
Thanks again for humbling me with your words of rebuke.
I'm sure that I deserved such hostility and beg your pardon for being offensive.
You are right, I am an idiot, a hypocrite, weak, and a failure.
Maybe one day I can arrive at your level of virtue and goodness.
I sure hope to be a well-adjusted and psychologically healthy guy one day, just like you.
Thanks for straightening me out. I am sure you feel really good about yourself now.
With such a great example as you to show me the way to go about resolving conflict (with verbal abuse and psychological assaults) I am sure to go far in life.
Seriously though, your response to me was just plain nasty.
You come across to me as arrogant, condescending, and self-righteous.
But that's OK. I am not going to lose any sleep over it. And do you know why?
BECAUSE I REALLY DO NOT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT YOUR OPINION, THAT'S WHY.
Anne Bonney:
--- Quote from: "Honesty" ---
I never said the person wasn't sober, I said they have failed in recovery. In order to recover you must come to terms with issues. As SEKTO has not.
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Yeah, we get it. Anyone who dares criticize your beloved program or program guru obviously hasn't "come to terms with their issues". Right.
::) ::) ::)
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "Honesty" ---Sekto, I hope you really mean what you said you are willing to testify in court. You Have made statements in this post that are a lie. You also stated that some are HIV positive and some are dead and so on. I hope you have alot of money to defend yourself in a court of law. You are liable and I can't wait for you to have to pay the price for your lies. You have a number of facts wrong and It appears to me that you have a ton of personal guilt about how you treated someone. You can try and blame the program for your wrong's but you will have to live with it your whole life. Daytop did not make you treat someone bad. They also never abused you or damaged you. You were that way when you got there and you remain F*** Up. How dare you slander people who are dead. They have no way to defend themselves. While I do not have time now to disbute all your lies, rest assured I will. :twofinger:
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and yet..no civil action on your behalf or those you represent, because, of course, Setko is being utterly truthful. Thank you setko, for your intelligent, and thoughtful commentary here.
Anne Bonney:
--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---Were people really forced to walk around with pacifiers in their mouths?
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Thought I'd ask again since I didn't get an answer.
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