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willful suspension of disbelief
« Reply #105 on: December 15, 2007, 01:45:37 PM »
Quote from: ""Eliscu2""
Quote from: ""Che Gookin""
I thought the Hebrew added a nice touch.


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Re: willful suspension of disbelief
« Reply #106 on: January 19, 2008, 08:43:44 AM »
bump
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Re: willful suspension of disbelief
« Reply #107 on: January 19, 2008, 10:43:36 AM »
I'm in disbelief that someone bumped this thread.
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Re: willful suspension of disbelief
« Reply #108 on: January 20, 2008, 10:55:04 AM »
the first 2 pages of this thread are very good
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Re: willful suspension of disbelief
« Reply #109 on: January 20, 2008, 11:08:10 AM »
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the first 2 pages of this thread are very good
Yup.  Sometimes threads get derailed, then somebody puts it back on topic.  It tends to happen an unmoderated forum. It's left to the users to sort the wheat from the chaff.
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Re: willful suspension of disbelief
« Reply #110 on: January 20, 2008, 08:31:17 PM »
Psy, remember the conversation we had on YIM about how much money you were raking in off the free ads you got to place? From all the "suckers" who thought you were going to spend that money on doing something good? If you don't let it rest, I will post that conversation. The next move is up to you Psy.
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Re: willful suspension of disbelief
« Reply #111 on: January 20, 2008, 09:19:42 PM »
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the first 2 pages of this thread are very good

Well then the person who bumped it shoulda quoted something from those pages or something, y'know?
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Re: willful suspension of disbelief
« Reply #112 on: January 20, 2008, 09:27:27 PM »
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Psy, remember the conversation we had on YIM about how much money you were raking in off the free ads you got to place? From all the "suckers" who thought you were going to spend that money on doing something good? If you don't let it rest, I will post that conversation. The next move is up to you Psy.

Right.. okey dokey.  You post whatever you got, then i'll post a bank statement as well as scanned reciepts.  I'll also consider suing you for defamation since my full name is known to everybody here.   Che can also attest to the amount of money I spent.  Give you a clue: it was way more than what I got in donations.

Also, consider that no money on this site goes to me at all.  Ginger gets anything off the ads here.  Go away and stop bothering me....
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Re: willful suspension of disbelief
« Reply #113 on: January 20, 2008, 09:39:29 PM »
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Psy, remember the conversation we had on YIM about how much money you were raking in off the free ads you got to place? From all the "suckers" who thought you were going to spend that money on doing something good? If you don't let it rest, I will post that conversation. The next move is up to you Psy.

Right.. okey dokey.  You post whatever you got, then i'll post a bank statement as well as scanned reciepts.  I'll also consider suing you for defamation since my full name is known to everybody here.   Che can also attest to the amount of money I spent.  Give you a clue: it was way more than what I got in donations.

Also, consider that no money on this site goes to me at all.  Ginger gets anything off the ads here.  Go away and stop bothering me....

Look. We both know what you say behind the scenes. The part about suing me is a good touch. It makes you appear outraged and more believable. I am sure your fans and those you have scammed believe you, but we both know better, don't we? I know how much money you raised, and how much you spent. I am probably not as good as you at fabricating fake bank statements, though. That's what you told me you could do if I ever said anything, so why am I not surprised to see that? You are too predictable Psy, time to get a new act.
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Re: willful suspension of disbelief
« Reply #114 on: January 20, 2008, 09:57:36 PM »
^^^^ TheWho. Comma placement says it all.
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Re: willful suspension of disbelief
« Reply #115 on: January 20, 2008, 10:02:24 PM »
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Psy, remember the conversation we had on YIM about how much money you were raking in off the free ads you got to place? From all the "suckers" who thought you were going to spend that money on doing something good? If you don't let it rest, I will post that conversation. The next move is up to you Psy.

Right.. okey dokey.  You post whatever you got, then i'll post a bank statement as well as scanned reciepts.  I'll also consider suing you for defamation since my full name is known to everybody here.   Che can also attest to the amount of money I spent.  Give you a clue: it was way more than what I got in donations.

Also, consider that no money on this site goes to me at all.  Ginger gets anything off the ads here.  Go away and stop bothering me....

Look. We both know what you say behind the scenes. The part about suing me is a good touch. It makes you appear outraged and more believable. I am sure your fans and those you have scammed believe you, but we both know better, don't we? I know how much money you raised, and how much you spent. I am probably not as good as you at fabricating fake bank statements, though. That's what you told me you could do if I ever said anything, so why am I not surprised to see that? You are too predictable Psy, time to get a new act.


Post the "chats" please or quit ranting...
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Re: willful suspension of disbelief
« Reply #116 on: January 20, 2008, 10:47:25 PM »
Why even give this fucking tool the satisfaction, psy?
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Re: willful suspension of disbelief
« Reply #117 on: January 20, 2008, 11:08:39 PM »
Because he has nothing better to do. Fornits is his life, how pathetic is that?
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Re: willful suspension of disbelief
« Reply #118 on: March 06, 2008, 02:37:02 PM »
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...however, anybody who has been in one of these little cults knows full well that the damage done by these places does not lie in bullshit numbers, but in very real long term damage caused by the types of thought reform used.
I've said it before:  I don't think you can quantify or even approximate the damage done by these places by any means practiced at the moment.  No one bothers to do any long-term studies, but long-term studies are precisely what are needed given the kind of damage that takes place.

Do you really think industry insiders and apologists are going to do these kinds of studies?  It is not in their financial best interests to touch this with a ten-foot pole.  They might do an assessment whilst the kid is in program and maybe 1 year out.  No further removed from exposure than that.

But much of the damage does not begin to percolate to the surface and become overtly evident 'till much later.  It's like psychological asbestos.  It takes time for some of the effects from exposure to show up, and by the time they do, you're pretty much fucked.
You're absolutely right about this, it took 20 years for me to give it more than a second thought...


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Re: willful suspension of disbelief
« Reply #119 on: March 07, 2008, 09:01:17 PM »
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