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I'm headed off to get my daughter from sage walk

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Wow, TheWho is really just not a very smart person.  He answers the charge of conflation with further conflation.

Anyway, to use your example, douchebag, how different is this from the "OP" at TB?  Not much from where I sit.

This idiot just augurs himself deeper and deeper into the turf each time he responds.  If there is anyone left that thinks TheWhore is anything other than a complete dope, then that person is the only person alive dumber than TheWhore.

TheWho:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Wow, TheWho is really just not a very smart person.  He answers the charge of conflation with further conflation.

Anyway, to use your example, douchebag, how different is this from the "OP" at TB?  Not much from where I sit.

This idiot just augurs himself deeper and deeper into the turf each time he responds.  If there is anyone left that thinks TheWhore is anything other than a complete dope, then that person is the only person alive dumber than TheWhore.
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Resorting to name calling.  Tsk,Tsk.  You just got owned.  Discussion over.

Botched Programming:

--- Quote from: "TheWho" --- They use behavior modification.  You used Behavior modification on your own kids, you just don’t know it.  If they did something good you said “Good Jobâ€
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TheWho:

--- Quote from: ""Botched Programming"" ---   There is a big difference in rewarding a child for a job well done and being forced to change in fear of reprisal or extreme consequences.
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They are both considered behavior modification.


--- Quote --- The examples you give above do not compare with a child being stripped from their families, friends, and people that they trust. Having to endure "Fear Tactic" therapy. Suffering extreme consequences for not being submissive and allowing an unlicensed counselor get in their head and botch up the programming they are trying to do on the kids. Then the end result is a child who is emotionally and mentally broken. That's what happens when the average kid is traumatized in the programming process by brain butchers at programs.
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I agree 100%.  There is no chance I would send any of my kids to a place like that nor would I suggest anyone send their children there.


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Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---The overwhelming majority of kids that go thru Sagewalk do well and move on with their lives but there are always the few that leave early or do not benefit from the program and come on to fornits to try to make it seem like it is abusive.

They will hound you because they don’t want other parents reading about how well your daughter did and are hoping that by beating you up you will leave.  They are trying to get even with the school or their parents.
You need to remember that the definitions are different here:

Getting a ride = Abduction
Having a curfew = Incarcerated
Cooking your own meal = Abuse
No cell phone = Torture
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ABDUCTED: 2-5 men coming to your bedroom in the middle of the night, and forcing you into a car. They will probably put you in handcuffs. If you try to escape they will apprehend and beat you. Sometimes a group of adolescents from the cult will be sent to abduct the youth

INCARCERATED---- ABUSED---- TORTURED:

Strip searched upon arrival, without due process. Often by other kids.

 You are not allowed to move without permission from another child. If given permission, two children must hold you. You must be in arms distance of another child, or two, at all times. INSIDE THE BUILDING.

If you wish to leave the building for another, there is another level of interference- staff. Staff must grant you permission. This will not be granted if your group is being punished. If some activity is scheduled- a “work assignmentâ€

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